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Amnesty: Setting The Numbers Straight (Robert Rector Debunks White House Low Ball Estimate Alert)
Frontpagemag ^ | 05/30/06 | Robert Rector

Posted on 05/30/2006 1:39:14 AM PDT by goldstategop

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S.2611), which recently passed the Senate, provides amnesty to illegal immigrants and creates a massive “guest worker” for life program. Earlier this month, The Heritage Foundation released an analysis calculating that the bill, if enacted, likely would result in 103 million immigrants obtaining legal status or entering in the U.S. legally over the next twenty years. [1] All of these individuals would have the right to permanent residence and could become citizens and vote in U.S. elections.

On May 18th, the White House Office of Media Affairs issued a press release challenging the Heritage study.[2] The White House defended the Senate bill, charging that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated the bill would add only 8 million new legal immigrants, “a fraction of the Heritage report’s claims." [3]

The Heritage estimate that 103 million immigrants would gain legal status under S.2611 explicitly included: legal immigrants who would enter the country under current law; illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S. who would receive amnesty; and the increase in new legal immigration that likely would result from the bill.

The CBO figure of eight million immigrants promoted by the White House differed from the Heritage estimate because the figure:

was limited to 10 years rather than 20 years; excluded immigration allowed under current law; and excluded illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S. who would receive legal permanent residence due to S.2611.

CBO’s Clarification

In a subsequent memo provided to Senator Jeff Sessions (R –AL) on May 24th, CBO clarified the number promoted by the White House. [4] This CBO memo shows the White House figure was less than half of the actual CBO estimate of persons who would receive permanent status under S.2611.

The CBO memo indicated that, over the next ten years, S.2611 would result in 11 million current illegal immigrants receiving legal permanent residence and 7.8 million new legal immigrants entering the country. Combined with 9.5 million immigrants who will enter under current law, the result would be 28.3 million persons becoming legal residents over ten years. This is almost three times the level permitted by current law.

Differences in CBO and Heritage Estimates

The CBO number of 28 million is still considerably lower than the original Heritage estimate of 49 million over ten years. The difference is caused by four factors.

Amnesty Rates: CBO estimated that most current illegal immigrants would receive legal permanent residence and the right to citizenship but assumed that many would not qualify for direct amnesty; instead, they would achieve permanent residence through participation in employment-based visa programs. This would, in turn, reduce the number of foreign residents entering the U.S. with employment visas during the first ten years. This factor accounts for a difference of roughly five to six million between the Heritage and CBO estimates.

The CBO estimate assumed that only 50 to 66 percent of individuals eligible for amnesty under S.2611 would receive it, claiming that this ratio is based on experience from the 1986 amnesty.[5] The Heritage Foundation assumed, given the very lenient standards of evidence in S.2611, that almost all of those deemed potentially eligible for amnesty would receive it; this estimate also assumes that current count of 12 million current illegal immigrants in the U.S. may be low and that there may be a large number of fraudulent amnesty claims filed.

Dependents: Under the bill, immigrants placed on a track to amnesty or in the guest worker program may bring into the U.S. spouses and dependent children from abroad. The number of spouses and dependent children that may be given legal permanent residence status through this provision is not limited by S.2611.

Historically, foreign workers receiving employment-based visas have brought 1.2 dependents with them. On the other hand, many illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S. already have families with them, and therefore the Heritage analysis assumed that only 0.6 dependents would be brought into the U.S. for each current illegal immigrant receiving permanent residence. By contrast, CBO estimated that current illegal immigrants obtaining legal permanent residence will bring very few dependents from abroad—roughly one dependent for every seven illegal immigrants gaining permanent residence. CBO also seems to assume a lower ratio of dependents to workers in the guest worker program in general. The CBO numbers appear to be well below historic norms in immigrant programs. This factor accounts for a five to six million-person difference between the estimates.

Guest Workers and Green Cards: CBO assumed that the permanent guest workers in Section 408 of the bill would be subject to the green card caps granting legal permanent residence under Section 501. Because there was no language in the bill stating that the permanent guest workers would be subject to this cap, the Heritage analysis assumed the green card cap would not apply. This resulted in a difference of eleven to twelve million persons between the estimates. (After the publication of both the Heritage and the CBO estimate Senator Jeff Sessions successfully introduced an amendment, with concurrence from Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL), a chief sponsor of S.2611, stipulating that the Section 501 caps would apply to guest workers.)

Emigration The White House also claimed that The Heritage Foundation study was flawed because it failed to take into account that many immigrants, given the right to become permanent U.S. citizens, would instead choose to leave. The White House states that “emigration rates may be 25 to 30 percent.”[6]There seems to be little basis for this claim. The Census Bureau finds that the less developed a nation is, the less likely immigrants from that nation are to leave the U.S. and return home.[7] Its data show that the return rate for Hispanic immigrants is around 7 percent per decade.[8] If enacted, CIRA would probably reduce return rates even further by greatly increasing incentives for immigrants to stay in the U.S.[9]

The CBO estimates include a fairly significant emigration factor; the assumed rate of emigration and the basis for determining that rate are undisclosed.

Immigration Under the Amended Bill

S.2611 has been amended by Senator Bingaman (D-NM) to reduce the largely unlimited potential inflow under the guest worker program. The bill has also been amended by Senator Sessions to include guest workers under the employment green card caps in the bill. These amendments reduce the vast flow of 103 million immigrants projected under the original bill. The amended bill would still grant permanent residence (and the opportunity for citizenship) to some 60 million persons by over the next twenty years. Finally, it should be noted that our estimates assume zero future illegal immigration. In reality, S.2611 is likely to increase future illegal immigration.

ENDNOTES:

[1] Robert Rector, “Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years,” Heritage Foundation WebMemo No. 1076, May 15, 2006.

[2] The White House Office of Media Affairs, “Setting the Record Straight: Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates Legal Immigration Increase Under Senate Immigration Bill,” May 18, 2006.

[3] Ibid.

[4] Memo from Donald B. Marron, Acting Director, Congressional Budget Office, to the Honorable Jeff Sessions, May 24, 2006.

[5] Congressional Budget Office, “Cost Estimate: S.2611, Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006,” May 16, 2006, p. 22.

[6] The White House, op. cit.

[7] Bashir Ahmed and J. Gregory Robinson, “Estimates of Emigration of the Foreign-born Population: 1980-1990,” Population Division Working Paper, No. 9, December 1994, p.9.

[8] Ibid.

[9] The original Heritage Foundation analysis did not incorporate an emigration rate for immigrants. The emigration rate, at any level, would not have affected the estimate of 103 million persons since that figure represents a count of all those receiving legal status and not a count of persons remaining in the country at the end of 20 years. The very low likely emigration rate of the immigrant stock would affect modestly the estimate of the percent of the population that is foreign born in 2027. On the other hand, the original estimates assumed a zero rate of future illegal immigration. An assumption of a modest rate of continuing illegal migration would have affected the number as much or more.


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To: Always Right
No it does not, acoording to this.

Interesting article, despite the fact that it came from the SF Chronicle. My info comes from the CIA factbook. There is no caveat that 10% of Mexico's official population lives in the US.

Oh I understand perfectly well, I just based it on my estimate of what I thought Mexico population was roughly, 100 vs. 107.

If that is the case, why did you assert that the Heritage numbers would make Mexico a "ghost country." If you bothered to read to the end of the article, you will notice that Heritage reduced the number to 60 million based on amendments to the Senate bill.

Yes and no. It includes the current levels of migration. If the flood gates were truely open as this prediction suggests, the current net migration rate would go from -4.32 per 1000 to about ten times that or about 40 per 1000.

The Rector study makes no such assumption. Initally, the Senate bill had increased the LEGAL immigration number five times its current one million a year. The current bill increases the number threefold. You are also making the assumption that all of these legal immigrants will come from Mexico. That is not the case. You should read your own link to the SF article.

"Three-quarters of the estimated 12 million illegal migrants in the United States come from Mexico and Central America. Mexicans make up 56 percent of the unauthorized U.S. migrant population, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Another 22 percent come from elsewhere in Latin America, mainly Central America and the Andean countries. These same countries send many of the half-million new illegal immigrants who arrive each year."

This would push their population growth from 1.16% to -2.84%, which would result in Mexico's population plumenting from 107 million to under 60 million over the next 20 years. Ain't going to happen. It's an over the top prediction that should never have been printed.

Phony strawman. Read the original Rector study which has been subequently been modified based on the new amendments to the Senate bill that were made primarily because of Rector and Sessions analyzing the impact of the bill on the numbers of legal immigrants.

Please note that the WH and CBO assume no illegal immigration in their figures.

41 posted on 05/30/2006 7:30:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Interesting article, despite the fact that it came from the SF Chronicle. My info comes from the CIA factbook.

I know where your numbers came from, but their difinition they use does not give any indication if they included citizens living in other countries legally or illegally. That's why I went elsewhere to see if that 107 included those currently in the US. According to the SF Chronicles it does, according to the CIA factbook, who knows.

42 posted on 05/30/2006 7:39:03 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: goldstategop

Being a renter, I'm also very concerned. We've seen rents go up 7-9 % each year here in Los Angeles County. A one bedroom apartment in SE Los Angeles County can rent for over $1000/month. In West L.A., they're going for over $2000. It's even worse in Orange County, where a small bachelor apt. without a kitchen will rent for $1000/month.

There are very few new apartments being built, and there are more "Spanish speaking" people than ever flooding into Southern California. The apartment vacancy rates are around 3 %, and when an apartment does become available, it's snatched up within a day.

I can not afford to move, as my business is located here.
And I can not afford to buy at a median price of over $500,000!


43 posted on 05/30/2006 8:43:42 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: goldstategop; Luke21

According to this, that's exactly what they want, a North American Union without borders.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965


44 posted on 05/30/2006 8:54:39 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: goldstategop

I am in So. Calif. and new house building is booming.


45 posted on 05/30/2006 10:38:47 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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46 posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:07 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Always Right
If we had 100 million new immigrants, Mexico would be an absolute ghost country. Sometimes people check their logic at the door when they play with numbers.

Hello....Rector is talking about immigrants from all over the world, not just Mexico.

47 posted on 05/30/2006 11:20:37 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
Hello....Rector is talking about immigrants from all over the world, not just Mexico.

Mexico makes up the majority current immigrants and will be where the vast majority of the increase will come from under this plan.

48 posted on 05/30/2006 11:27:04 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Mexico makes up the majority current immigrants and will be where the vast majority of the increase will come from under this plan.

The majority of our legal immigrants do not come from Mexico. Mexico is our single largest source of of legal immigration (between 20 to 25 percent annually) it is true, but that is far different from from saying that majority of our total number of immigrants come from Mexico. Also, the majority of illegal immigrants do not actually come from Mexico itself (once you take into account all the immigrants who com here legally but then overstay their visas). Likewise the majority of all the immigrants coming under the Senate's plan would not be from a single country such as Mexico either.

49 posted on 05/30/2006 12:18:18 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Deo volente
Being a renter, I'm also very concerned.

Have a friend that just rented out a bedroom in her home for $925/month plus yard chores. While this is at the beach in Orange County, it is still absurd.

50 posted on 05/30/2006 12:49:56 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Cyropaedia
The majority of our legal immigrants do not come from Mexico.

If we are talking about the undocumented/illegal immigrants, then Mexicans make up about 60% of that, and there is no reason not to think it will be the Mexicans who will make up the vast majority of these new immigrants under this plan.

51 posted on 05/30/2006 12:57:10 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
If we are talking about the undocumented/illegal immigrants, then Mexicans make up about 60% of that, and there is no reason not to think it will be the Mexicans who will make up the vast majority of these new immigrants under this plan.

Wrong, there are plenty of reasons to believe that a majority of new immigrants will not be Mexicans under the Senate's plan. The plan is an attempt to more or less try and put the rest of the immigrants on a somewhat equal footing. For years one of the big criticisms of our current immigration mess is that the Mexicans effectively crowd out the other immigrants in the system. The reason the percentage of Mexicans under our present policies is relatively high is simply a matter of logistics. The other immigrants in other countries can't exploit the loopholes in our immigration policies as the Mexicans do simply because they are not fortunate enough to actually live in a country that shares a 2,000 mile border with the U.S.. Less Mexicans "clogging" the bottleneck into this country simply means more available spots for the rest of the people throughout the world.

With 6 billion plus people living on this planet there is absolutely no shortage of people wanting to come here. There are probably several hundred million people in mainland China alone that would really like to come to America if actually given some sort of chance to do so. And this is just one of 120 plus countries that we are talking about.

The total percentage of non Mexican illegals is in all likelihood higher than what you claim because there is no comprehensive way to actually verify which visa holders have actually go back and as opposed to the rest who simply decide to stay.

52 posted on 05/30/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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