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Potential terrorists lurking in Canadian cities: CSIS
National Post ^ | May 29, 2006 | Bruce Cheadle

Posted on 05/29/2006 11:15:13 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Canada has its own crop of homegrown terrorists capable of acts like the deadly attacks on London's transit system last summer, says Canada's spy agency.

"I can tell you that all of the circumstances that led to the London transit bombings . . . are resident here and now in Canada,'' Jack Hooper, operations director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told a Senate committee Monday.

The threat from Canadian-bred terrorists is considered by CSIS to be on a par with external terror threats, Hooper said during an appearance with RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli.

He did not, however, say how many homegrown terror suspects there are in Canada, where they live, or which groups they are connected with.

The Senate's national security and defence committee was supposed to be examining Canada's role in Afghanistan. But the hearing sprawled across the security waterfront to include everything from CSIS interrogation techniques to the RCMP's ability to use spy service intelligence in criminal prosecutions.

Conservative Senator Michael Meighen asked Hooper and Zaccardelli to connect the dots between the Afghan mission and Canadian domestic security.

"The ordinary Canadian at Tim Hortons doesn't get it, in the sense that they don't seem to perceive the threat to themselves and their families and to their communities the same way you two gentlemen do,'' said Meighen.

Zaccardelli said failed states are breeding grounds for terrorists and organized crime.

"When we can help these countries help themselves, we are actually helping Canada,'' he said. "I strongly believe it is a good investment.''

Hooper pointed to several examples of people who had lived in Canada, and later took part in terrorist attacks. He said a common thread was time spent training at terror camps in Afghanistan.

"When we talk about the homegrown terrorist phenomenon, these are people. . . in most instances who are Canadian citizens,'' said the CSIS deputy. "You can't remove them anywhere.

"Most of them are very young. A lot of them were born here. A lot of them who were not born here emigrated to Canada with their parents at a very young age.''

Hooper did not provide any specifics on numbers or their whereabouts and did not respond to questions from reporters after the hearing. Liberal Senator Colin Kenny, the chairman of the committee, said Britain's experience last summer should provide a wake-up call for the problems Canada could encounter with homegrown terrorists.

"They'd been born in country,'' Kenny said of the group that detonated a series of bombs, killing 52 civilians and four terrorists last July 7.

"They had all of the slang and comfort with the culture that you and I have, and yet, boom, here they are committing terrorist acts,'' Kenny said during a break in the hearings.

"It's a huge challenge to the police and the security forces to find them, to have a broad enough net to catch them. And so far I haven't heard anyone give us a good handle on how they can deal with it.''


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaedacanada; canada; csis; islam; jihad; terrorism; terrorists

1 posted on 05/29/2006 11:15:16 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

I would actually fear groups in Winnipeg more than Toronto/Eastern provincences... A lot of undesirable immigrants (a lot from N. Africa and SE Asia) are dumped here due to Manitoba's lack of political clout.


2 posted on 05/29/2006 11:20:17 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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Too bad CSIS did not disclose what they knew before the Air India bombing concerning the threat of terrorists.




3 posted on 05/29/2006 11:20:31 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: West Coast Conservative
This douche bag should be near the top of the list, I hope.
4 posted on 05/29/2006 11:22:10 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: West Coast Conservative
you can blame canada, but ask yourself 'what would brian boytono do?'
5 posted on 05/29/2006 11:23:25 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: West Coast Conservative

Isn't there a University in Hamilton, Ont, that is rumored to be a hive of Islamocrazies?


6 posted on 05/29/2006 11:36:58 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: West Coast Conservative

ya, every country has its potential terrorists, but i think canada is low on the list of global threats. And besides, what are we supposed to do. Let canada handle the terrorists in THEIR country.


7 posted on 05/29/2006 11:37:38 PM PDT by Domingo
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9 posted on 05/30/2006 3:35:01 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: West Coast Conservative; Cindy; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; ...

Canada ping!

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this ping list.

10 posted on 05/30/2006 4:35:20 AM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hopefully, Canada gives more of a crap than Mexico does!


11 posted on 05/30/2006 5:20:46 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: West Coast Conservative
And so far I haven't heard anyone give us a good handle on how they can deal with it.

Easy- learn Arabic and drop in on Friday prayers at any mosque. I know a lot of muslims who complain about imams who condemn terrorism to the media in English then take to the pulpit and call for jihad in Arabic.

12 posted on 05/30/2006 5:57:07 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Yay! It's Riding Season!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
... connect the dots between the Afghan mission and Canadian domestic security. "The ordinary Canadian at Tim Hortons doesn't get it, in the sense that they don't seem to perceive the threat to themselves and their families and to their communities the same way you two gentlemen do,'' said Meighen.

Zaccardelli said failed states are breeding grounds for terrorists and organized crime. "When we can help these countries help themselves, we are actually helping Canada,''(America) he said. "I strongly believe it is a good investment.''

Hooper pointed to several examples of people who had lived in Canada, and later took part in terrorist attacks. He said a common thread was time spent training at terror camps in Afghanistan.

Excellent response that needs to be pounded home for the ordinary American at Dunkin Donuts, too. It's why we need to stay the course in Afghanistan and why we need to continue to be engaged as a preventive strategy as we are in the Horn of Africa and Northern Africa.

13 posted on 05/30/2006 7:34:38 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I have to agree with you whole heartedly. I'm in Winnipeg and they don't call us the murder capital of Canada because we have a handle on things.

They government has no casabas and the unsavories not only get in but they are set up with jobs right away. I can't remember the last time I had a handi-transit driver that could speak English.

14 posted on 05/30/2006 7:51:34 AM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"They had all of the slang and comfort with the culture that you and I have, and yet, boom, here they are committing terrorist acts,'' Kenny said during a break in the hearings


>>Well, 1st of all, you have tor admit that islam is a religion based upon the hatred of the modern world.

2ndly- Face the obvious truth that there are animals out there that require you to succumb to their inferior form of idiotic worship of a lie that a demonic sow lover created in a cave during a failed attempt at fooling a sow.

3rd- Follow Denmark's lead in stopping immigration and deporting the sadistic bastards to the failure of a desert dwelling "country" where they came from.

4th- Fight when all else fails.

5th- Go back to normal life when all else has been completed.

Carry on.
15 posted on 05/30/2006 1:29:32 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Maybe the Canadian home grown terrorists will stop by Senator Stollery's office to invite him out to the local Tim's for a large double-double, to demonstrate that they pose no threat to Canada, and they don't like that stooge (Stollery's words) Karzai either.


16 posted on 05/31/2006 4:30:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Hooper did not provide any specifics on numbers...

Neither did he provide any specifics on their most notable and common identifying characteristic: their *ahem* religion.

But I suppose we are all just to assume that - without offending anybody, of course! We wouldn't want to put anybody in a snit, would we?

17 posted on 05/31/2006 5:37:12 AM PDT by Gritty (A 'criminal' approach gives terrorists all the rights of criminals - Mark Steyn)
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