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To: Coop

"Why do you presume a) that an American Marine shot this innocent victim? and b) that an American Marine deliberately shot her? "

I presume an American shot her because the clean up crew understood it to be the situation.
It also corraborates the testimony of a young girl who survived the massacre - she said it was American soldiers who came into her home.
I actually haven't seen anyone claim that anyone else was responsible.

I presume the shots were deliberate because a Marine is a trained marksmen and a shot to the forehead would seem to be a very deliberate shot.

Presumption of innocence doesn't only apply to the Marines.
It also applies to the witnesses to the shootings.

Many people are presuming these people to be liars.


413 posted on 05/30/2006 8:40:42 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
I presume an American shot her because the clean up crew understood it to be the situation.

Well, then string the sorry bastards up right now!

It also corraborates the testimony of a young girl who survived the massacre - she said it was American soldiers who came into her home. I actually haven't seen anyone claim that anyone else was responsible.

I don't think there's any doubt Americans came into that home. There is doubt as to whether the occupants were already dead, if they killed from afar or at point blank range, etc.

You haven't heard claims of anyone else? Why would that be? Oh, perhaps because you don't know squat about what occurred, just like the rest of us? Perhaps because we're only getting one side of the story. There's a reason we have prosecutors and defense attornies - although this point is premature since no charges have been filed.

I presume the shots were deliberate because a Marine is a trained marksmen and a shot to the forehead would seem to be a very deliberate shot.

ROTFLMAO!!! Typical nonsense spewed from one who has never served in the military! Yes, it takes a trained marksman to put a gun to someone's head and pull the trigger - which is what you and others are accusing them of having done.

Presumption of innocence doesn't only apply to the Marines. It also applies to the witnesses to the shootings.

a) No it doesn't. The victims are not being accused of crimes. b) You act as if said presumption has been afforded to these Marines. It certainly has not been by you and many others. You've already convicted them.

Many people are presuming these people to be liars.

Liars, maybe. More likely distraught and confused by an incredibly hectic situation, ready and willing to lash out at anyone - it's human nature.

421 posted on 05/31/2006 5:06:49 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Scotswife
By the way, I am very glad to see you've overcome your inherent shyness to post about this important topic. [cough, cough]

I know, I know! You're just a long-time lurker! [wink]

422 posted on 05/31/2006 5:08:39 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Scotswife
It also corraborates the testimony of a young girl who survived the massacre - she said it was American soldiers who came into her home.

Actually, that's not accurate.

The little girl specifically stated: "I couldn't see their faces very well—only their guns sticking into the doorway."

In FACT, the little girl thought the Iraqi soldiers were responsible: ""We were lying there, bleeding, and it hurt so much. Afterward, some Iraqi soldiers came. They carried us in their arms. I was crying, shouting 'Why did you do this to our family?'
http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,1174649,00.html

426 posted on 05/31/2006 5:55:21 AM PDT by Velveeta
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