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To: Scotswife
I presume an American shot her because the clean up crew understood it to be the situation.

Well, then string the sorry bastards up right now!

It also corraborates the testimony of a young girl who survived the massacre - she said it was American soldiers who came into her home. I actually haven't seen anyone claim that anyone else was responsible.

I don't think there's any doubt Americans came into that home. There is doubt as to whether the occupants were already dead, if they killed from afar or at point blank range, etc.

You haven't heard claims of anyone else? Why would that be? Oh, perhaps because you don't know squat about what occurred, just like the rest of us? Perhaps because we're only getting one side of the story. There's a reason we have prosecutors and defense attornies - although this point is premature since no charges have been filed.

I presume the shots were deliberate because a Marine is a trained marksmen and a shot to the forehead would seem to be a very deliberate shot.

ROTFLMAO!!! Typical nonsense spewed from one who has never served in the military! Yes, it takes a trained marksman to put a gun to someone's head and pull the trigger - which is what you and others are accusing them of having done.

Presumption of innocence doesn't only apply to the Marines. It also applies to the witnesses to the shootings.

a) No it doesn't. The victims are not being accused of crimes. b) You act as if said presumption has been afforded to these Marines. It certainly has not been by you and many others. You've already convicted them.

Many people are presuming these people to be liars.

Liars, maybe. More likely distraught and confused by an incredibly hectic situation, ready and willing to lash out at anyone - it's human nature.

421 posted on 05/31/2006 5:06:49 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
attornies = attorneys
Shame on me!
431 posted on 05/31/2006 7:28:53 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

"Well, then string the sorry bastards up right now! "

I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth.

"There is doubt as to whether the occupants were already dead, if they killed from afar or at point blank range, etc. "

I hope you're right.

"You haven't heard claims of anyone else? Why would that be? Oh, perhaps because you don't know squat about what occurred, just like the rest of us? Perhaps because we're only getting one side of the story. There's a reason we have prosecutors and defense attornies - although this point is premature since no charges have been filed."

You were the one suggesting you had knowledge of another responsible party. I guess that is not the case.

"Yes, it takes a trained marksman to put a gun to someone's head and pull the trigger - which is what you and others are accusing them of having done"

Were marines there or not? Are they trained marksmen or not?
If they were the only ones there and a girl was left behind with a bullet in her forehead...then it isn't looking very good.
I sincerely hope that isn't the case.

"a) No it doesn't. The victims are not being accused of crimes. b) You act as if said presumption has been afforded to these Marines. It certainly has not been by you and many others. You've already convicted them. "

Again..you put words into my mouth.
I do not agree with Murtha. The investigation has not been completed and the information has not been released.
If the press is correct so far about what they are reporting - it is looking very bad.

"Liars, maybe. More likely distraught and confused by an incredibly hectic situation, ready and willing to lash out at anyone - it's human nature."

And IF it was Marines who stormed this girls house (she was very clear that it was), then yes - certainly she would want to lash out at those who killed her family.





445 posted on 05/31/2006 11:42:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
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