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Best Places To Go To Prison
Forbes ^ | 05/25/06 | Lacey Rose

Posted on 05/29/2006 4:28:43 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

New York - Two disgraced Enron executives, founder Kenneth Lay and former CEO Jeffrey Skilling, were found guilty on all six counts and 19 of 28 counts, respectively. Both face lengthy prison terms.

Where they will serve their time can be almost as important as how much time they'll do, says Alan Ellis, a former president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. Ellis now specializes in the defense of white-collar offenders.

Although criminals don't get to choose their prisons, they can make requests. And assuming their desired location matches their security classification, as defined by the Bureau of Prisons--minimum, low, medium or high--and has space available, requests are often honored.

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The days of "Club Fed"--think golf courses and lobster bakes--are long gone. But minimum security facilities, known as federal prison camps, are the best suited for disgraced CEOs and other white-collar criminals. In theory, inmates in these camps show no risk of violence or escape. Both shoe-mogul Steven Madden and Martha Stewart are FPC alums. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; crime; incarceration
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1 posted on 05/29/2006 4:28:46 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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I don't see the point in putting these crooks in max-security prisons, it simply isn't worth the money.

But, they certainly have earned hard time, and that is what they should receive.


2 posted on 05/29/2006 4:33:05 PM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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To: bruinbirdman

There are Scandinavian jails (Sweden?) where the prisoner lives on a private estate.


3 posted on 05/29/2006 4:34:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: bruinbirdman

What about Oswald State Penitentiary?


4 posted on 05/29/2006 4:35:55 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: bruinbirdman

Facing 145 years, I'd already be on a private jet heading to south America.


5 posted on 05/29/2006 4:38:10 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: bruinbirdman

One comic on late night television has suggested that being an inmate with a name pronounced "can lay" could be a problem in any prison facility.


6 posted on 05/29/2006 4:39:01 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: bruinbirdman; HiTech RedNeck
All bought and paid for with tax-payer dollars.

Prisoner Perks: Less than 30 miles from the Austin Airport, Bastrop is convenient for visitors.

Prisoner Perk: This stand-alone facility includes vocational training to teach prisoners to be cooks, housekeepers, paralegals and painters.

Prisoner Perk: Prisoners can study to be personal fitness trainers or landscapers at Sheridan's camp.

Prisoner Perk: Texarkana offers a track as well as a bocce pit, a basketball court and several fields for inmates to use.

Prisoner Perk: This stand-alone camp offers inmates music lessons and intramural team sports.

Prisoner Perk: Inmates can stay in shape using Lompoc's full gym and tennis courts.

Prisoner Perk: Duluth has a stash of instruments for inmate use, including a piano, drums and acoustic guitars.

Prisoner Perk: Dublin's "Bookmobile" service allows inmates to keep up with their reading.

7 posted on 05/29/2006 4:40:37 PM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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To: Mobties

WTF is going to want to turn that old man out???


8 posted on 05/29/2006 4:40:55 PM PDT by misterrob
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Plenty. Old men can't fight back too well.


9 posted on 05/29/2006 4:55:46 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: bruinbirdman
Eglin was once considered so cushy that the term "Club Fed" was actually coined to describe it. It was recently closed.

In 1973-4, as a sergeant of the U.S. Air Force, I was stationed at Eglin AFB. The minimum security prison at Eglin, in the Florida panhandle (Ft. Walton beach area,) was a great place to be incarcerated. I remember playing softball games against the prisoners, and joking that they couldn't steal bases.

I volunteered as a counselor there, and would see the prisoners at Friday Night Sabbath services. A few of them were Jewish, but most were not. One of them confided that they would come to the services for the wine. I guess a couple of one oz. shots of thick, sweet Manishevitz Wine is better than no wine at all. Most, if not all of the inmates were white collar criminals.

10 posted on 05/29/2006 4:59:58 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Give the scumbags 3 years top and make them do community service teaching classes to undergraduates about the dangers of greed in business. I mean, c'mon. It's not like they created a taxpayer-funded retirement system named Social Security or something.


11 posted on 05/29/2006 5:04:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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Facing 145 years, I'd already be on a private jet heading to south America.

Ding. Give the man a Cohiba. You know they've got the Benjamins to make it happen.

12 posted on 05/29/2006 5:05:59 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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We have an extradition treaty with every country in South America. In fact, I can think of only a few countries in the world with which we don't have a treaty, eg: North Korea, Iran, and a couple of others I can't recall.


13 posted on 05/29/2006 5:24:23 PM PDT by middie
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Do you think these guys are destitute? Money buys things especially in third world countries.


14 posted on 05/29/2006 5:34:19 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: middie; Hardastarboard; Normal4me

Other than the sheer arrogance of these people, I never understood why the whole lot of them didn't flee the country back in the Fall of 2001. The problem that they are having now is that most of their assets have been frozen.

As far as extradition goes, a lot of the countries won't cooperate in cases of non-violent white-collar crimes. Marc Rich was living openly in Europe for a long time before he bribed Klintoon for a pardon.


15 posted on 05/29/2006 5:36:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Makes ya wonder how their attorneys are going to be paid huh? ;-) I'm not condoning what these guys allegedly did, I'm just saying that if I was convicted and facing the rest of my life in prison and I was free on bail, I'd be looking to get out of the country. Going to south America is going to hell enough as far as I am concerned.
16 posted on 05/29/2006 5:48:34 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: bruinbirdman

Why is there a "Best" places to go to prison anyway?


17 posted on 05/29/2006 5:51:31 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: proud_yank
They are right up there with the likes of OJ Simpson,et al. They should be incarcerated for life somewhere along the Eastern Coast of Florida just as OJ is.
18 posted on 05/29/2006 5:53:59 PM PDT by joem15 (If less is more, then what is plenty?)
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These guys had tens and hundreds of millions, they had to know that the whole thing would come crashing down sooner or later. I just don't get why they hung around, they could have lived like royalty in some other country.


19 posted on 05/29/2006 5:54:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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I saw Bo Dietl on Neil Cavuto's show today...and he said he bet they headed to some country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with America.

He said that the judge just let them go free...and Bo said that is basically what that Marc Rich did, before Bubba gave him a pardon.

He said that HE himself would do that, if he had money and was facing sure jail time.


20 posted on 05/29/2006 5:56:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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