President Defies Most Republicans on Immigration

www.townhall.com ^ | May 29, 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

[cornelis]

As President Bush's poll numbers drop dramatically even among his base, the question most frequently asked by angry Republicans is: Why, oh why, is Bush so stubbornly rejecting the advice of his supporters even though that advice is consistent with the thunderous message from public opinion surveys?

The reliable Rasmussen survey, for example, reports that by a 63 percent to 19 percent margin, voters want legislation that controls the borders before trying to change the status of illegal immigrants.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger encapsuled the typical reaction to Bush's May 15 televised speech: "I have not heard the president say that our objective is to secure the borders no matter what it takes. That's what I want to hear."

Bush's dogmatic statement that we can't stop aliens from illegally entering our country unless legislation is packaged "together" with a guest-worker program is a non sequitur, nonsense, and untrue.

So what gives?

Here are some of the speculations grass-roots Republicans are making in regard to Bush's behavior:

(a) Bush prides himself on being a man of his word and he gave his word to Mexican President Vicente Fox that he would never stop the migration of Mexicans into the United States;

(b) Bush made a Faustian bargain with the big-money guys who raised more political money in 2000 than all other Republicans combined in order to nominate and elect him president;

(c) Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a "new world order";

(d) Bush meant what he said, at Waco, Texas, in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico.

Bush's guest-worker proposal would turn the United States into a boardinghouse for the world's poor, enable employers to import an unlimited number of "willing workers" at foreign wage levels, and wipe out what's left of the U.S. middle class. Bush lives in a house well protected by a fence and security guards and he associates with rich people who live in gated communities. Yet, for five years, he has refused to protect the property and children of ordinary Arizona citizens from trespassers and criminals.

Much attention has been paid to Bush's proposal to legalize the estimated 10 million to 20 million illegal immigrants currently living in the United States. Despite his denial of the "A" word, friends and foes alike recognize this as amnesty.

However, amnesty for 10 to 20 million is almost a drop in the bucket compared to the mammoth legalization of immigrants hiding under the deceitful words "temporary" and "guest worker." Those words are lies because the workers are not temporary and not guests.

We are indebted to the Heritage Foundation for its stunning report proving that the so-called 614-page "compromise" bill being debated in the Senate (under the Martinez-Hagel names) is a stealth open-borders bill that would import permanently and put on the path to U.S. citizenship at least 66 million people, with the actual number rising to at least twice that amount when they bring in relatives. Every category of legal immigration will be quadrupled or quintupled, and the racket called "family-chain migration" will be dramatically expanded.

The so-called temporary workers in their fourth year will get the right to remain in the United States permanently if they have learned English OR are enrolled in an English class, and after five years will get the right to become a U.S. citizen who can vote in U.S. elections. At the same time, the guest worker's spouse and children, without any numeric limits, will get legal permanent residence and citizenship.

After the so-called temporaries and their spouses become citizens, they acquire the right to bring in their parents as permanent residents on the path to citizenship. Siblings and adult children and their families will be given preference in future admissions.

In the words of the author of the Heritage report, Robert Rector, this is "the most monumental bill ever considered" and its mind-boggling costs would be the largest ever expansion of taxpayer-paid social benefits. Adding these millions to Medicaid, and adding their parents to Supplemental Security Income benefits, will become staggering entitlement costs.

The Senate bill would make 25 percent of the U.S. population foreign born within 20 years (most of them high school dropouts), and the United States as we know it would cease to exist.

It is impossible in so short a time to assimilate 100 million people whose native culture does not respect the Rule of Law, self-government, private property, or the sanctity of contracts, and where they are accustomed to an economy based on bribery and controlled by a small, rich ruling class that keeps most of the people in dire poverty.

Phyllis Schlafly is the President and Founder of the Eagle Forum.

Copyright © 2006 Copley News Service

[La Enchiladita]

Agreed.

Standing in a cemetery where more than 85,000 are buried was overwhelming.

But also heavy on my spirit as this is a city that ignores them.

Guess who was there?

[Fruitbat]

Anyone who would sign such a bill would instantly catapult to the status of "worst President in history".

One cannot top ending the USA.

Indeed! No, one sure can't.

[Fruitbat]

It doesn't seem so obvious to some, particularly here.

[Paul Ross]

I think Phyllis lost it awhile back.

Those are fighting words to any true conservative. You haven't got a leg to stand on...you remind me of the Black Knight in Monty Python:

ARTHUR: You fight with the strength of many men, Sir knight.

I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

[pause]

I seek the finest and the bravest knights in the land to join me in my Court of Camelot. [pause]

You have proved yourself worthy; will you join me? [pause]

You make me sad. So be it. Come, Patsy.

BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.

ARTHUR: What?

BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.

ARTHUR: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir knight, but I must cross this bridge.

BLACK KNIGHT: Then you shall die.

ARTHUR: I command you as King of the Britons to stand aside!

BLACK KNIGHT: I move for no man.

ARTHUR: So be it!

[hah]

[parry thrust]

[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's left arm off]

ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.

BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.

ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!

BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.

ARTHUR: Well, what's that then?

BLACK KNIGHT: I've had worse.

ARTHUR: You liar!

BLACK KNIGHT: Come on you pansy!

[hah]

[parry thrust]

[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right arm off]

ARTHUR: Victory is mine!

[kneeling]

--We thank thee Lord, that in thy merc-

[hah]

BLACK KNIGHT: Come on then.

ARTHUR: What?

BLACK KNIGHT: Have at you!

ARTHUR: You are indeed brave, Sir knight, but the fight is mine.

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, had enough, eh?

ARTHUR: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left.

BLACK KNIGHT: Yes I have.

ARTHUR: Look!

BLACK KNIGHT: It's just a flesh wound.

[Bang! Kick! BLACK KNIGHT begins kicking Arthur]

ARTHUR: Look, stop that.

BLACK KNIGHT: Chicken! Chickennnn!

ARTHUR: Look, I'll have your leg. Right!

[whop]

BLACK KNIGHT: Right, I'll do you for that!

ARTHUR: You'll what?

BLACK KNIGHT: Come 'ere!

ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me?

BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible!

ARTHUR: You're a loony.

BLACK KNIGHT: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.

[whop]

[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's other leg off]

BLACK KNIGHT: All right; we'll call it a draw.

ARTHUR: Come, Patsy.

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, oh, I see, running away then.
You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you.
I'll bite your legs off!

[eazdzit]

Admin if you look this interchange over you will see Mind-numbed trying to pick a fight with Upchuck.

Upchuck handles it well so Mind-numbed throws in a personal attack.

This practice is against the forum guidelines and creates a hostile environment.

When it is done with motive as opposed to personal animosity it reflects very badly on Free Republic. I respectfully suggest that it be addressed publicly.

Thank you.

:)Easy Does It:)

[beaelysium]

Another freerepublic thread,( take your bloodpressure pills before reading):

Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers

Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."

 

[Gaffer]

You're right. However, I'm exercising my duty to let my congressman know what I want because it takes both houses to make a law before a misguided president can sign it into law. If I don't get it from my congressman, his a$$ is out if enough of us dissent.

[Gaffer]

It would be nice, but I think it's more basic than letting some "group" do your thinking for you. All you really need to know is if something "sticks in your craw" and how many times this happens. Follow your gut, and enough will follow with you. Don't think about 'what happens to the Republicans' if my Senator or Congressman is out. Act on morality, fairness, and the law as it stands (and its enforcement), and things will take care of themselves. Above, we shouldn't give a rats a$$ what the liberals of the rest of the world think about us.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Wow! All that to make a point! I take it you disagree with me. Although I am sure your illustration was intended as an insult, it is a humorous one.

I think Ms Schlafly is a true conservative hero but recently I have thought she was off base on several occasions. In this case I think she is drawing unjustified conclusions from the report.

First of all, the report is not official doctrine. Secondly, it is outlining a "vision for the future" of this hemisphere and specifically for Canada, America, and Mexico. It is assuming a lot of changes will be necessary for its implementation. It also brings Mexico to task for not carrying its weight and says they will have to make a lot of changes themselves for this to work.

Thirdly, the idea of a defense perimeter, perimeter being the outward borders of the USA, Canada, and Mexico, does not indicate an elimination of the internal borders between the countries. It is simply saying that before there can be freer movement between the countries each must do its part in securing the perimeter from outside intrusion.

Obviously, much must be done to make the "vision" workable and Mexico is still not cooperating in the effort, but to take this report and to use it as a basis for the illegal immigration problem, a Bush conspiracy so to speak, is ridiculous.

[Paul Ross]

Note, regarding Black Knight, glad you liked the humor. I do too. I am not intending to be insulting, however, just to point out the errant nature of an obstinate rejection of the evidence of mounting heaps of lopped off parts. Just pointing out that with Phyllis's incredible track record of being consistently right...we need to be trusting of her 'truth detector' and 'instincts' and her unique knowledge of our enemy.

So in light of that, I guess we have to discuss this rejoinder of yours, where you don't believe her conclusions follow:

Thirdly, the idea of a defense perimeter, perimeter being the outward borders of the USA, Canada, and Mexico, does not indicate an elimination of the internal borders between the countries. It is simply saying that before there can be freer movement between the countries each must do its part in securing the perimeter from outside intrusion.

That would be a prosaic public position for the advocacy of these first stages.

But these are just undeniably, "first stages" of a plan proffered by the CFR which does indeed anticipate the dismantlement and erasure of our borders.

These kind of strategems don't appear in CFR out of thin air. Schlafly has long been a keen student of the "real-politick" crowd that Kissinger represents in the CFR, and notes their rather pronounced unconcern for real U.S. interests...like sovereignty, security or maintaining superior defense capacity. One of the key things she accomplished was making sure that Reagan kept to his personal pledge to keep Kissinger and his associates out of the Reagan Administration. He honored that pledge. And was happy to do it. And we were all the better for it. Unfortunately, that is not the case nowadays.

As for the "regional perimeter" not requiring the abandonment of enforcement of our own border...it is manifest that the President has been engaged in very specific talks pushing for that very objective. And appears to have promised just that to the respective other leaders. [ Who said he could? The voters? Doubtful. ]

Any time that our elected leadership think they are above the law, (which has previously been a problem mostly of RAT infestation) the People need to worry, and clamor to turn them all out.

And the notion that our own border security should be "pushed out" to Mexico's own outer perimeter is frankly an unjustified abdication of our own responsibilty for our own security. It is a totally unjustified shift. One that appears to show that President Bush and the CFR are indeed attempting to exploit the legitimate security issue...to push through their regionalism, Three Card Monty. Schlafly has noted elsewhere how implausible is the argument that a regional security effort is needed...when, in fact, it is only the U.S.A. at direct risk of attack by the jihadists. We are the target. Schlafly has rightly detected the evasions in the President's rationales. Subterfuge for Open Borders.

And if you note, Vincente Fox has been unwilling to help in anyway with sending troops to Iraq or Afghanistan. The only reason for the regional security issue is because they are putting the maintenance of a continued porous U.S. border for the benefit of Mexico's ruling interests...first and foremost. The horse before the cart. Just like the President is insisting on getting his Guest Worker Amnesty first, before he will suddenly find an inclination to seriously defend the Border, or aggressively enforce our laws. This continued, intellectually unsustainable 'linkage' is a conspiratorial extortion racket. As Edwin Meese has said, just like it was back in 1986...only then it was the House which had put all the strings against enforcement...and had promised the carrot of removing them...and funding enforcement efforts. Carrots which were promptly snatched away once the Amnesty was granted.

Schlafly may appear to you, to be taking too hard a line, and her judgement too critical here, drawing too dire a conclusion. But I believe she has just cause.

[churchillbuff]

I believe it is better to attack the bill itself and its wrong-headed ideas than the man himself. This Kennedy-written bill""""

Thanks for passing along the informative response to the Standard editorial. As to attacking the bill, not the man, you may be right as a general principle, but by calling it the "Kennedy-written" bill, you're not exactly following your own advice! Me, I'm merely pointing out that it's not just "Kennedy-written," it's also "Bush-backed." And that's disappointing -- no, infuriating!

[Smartass]

"Guess who was there?

Sorry I shut it down last night and didn't get back.
WHO.

 

[La Enchiladita]

G'morning, Smarty.

Mayor Villaracista.

the POS...

[Smartass]

POOEY...Sorry I asked.

 

[Smartass]

A Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteer walks
along a stretch of fence being built along the
U.S.-Mexico border near Palominas, Ariz. (AP)

 

[La Enchiladita]

THAT is an uplifting sight!!

Go, Minutemen and Minute Chicks!!

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I am accused by some of being a conspiracy theorist concerning Russia's conversion to democracy. I am not convinced it is sincere.

However, I don't believe the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, or the Bilderbergs secretly run the world. Regardless of any evidence of their leanings their power is minimal to nonexistent. George Soros, the labor unions, the Democrats, the MSM and the rest of the left have far more money, power, and influence.

I am also accused by others of being a Bushbot, a charge that is partially true. Along that line I can not bring myself to believe he is part of some nefarious conspiracy to destroy this country. I also don't believe he is dumb or naive. I personally don't know what he is doing but I believe he is open and sincere as he has been about all else.

The border situation is complex with many aspects, foreign and domestic, coming into play, things we don't see or know about. In a perfect world I see no problem with open borders with all parties being identified as far as home country citizenship and allegiance with that country being responsible for their well being.

Unfortunately, it is not a perfect world and those who wish us harm are the ones causing the problem and pushing this unworkable solution.

I think Bush is caught in the middle trying to solve a problem that started and then accelerated before he was responsible for it. It is now a fait acompli, as designed by those responsible. Were he responsible for this problem only, and were he given the resources and political backing from the beginning to solve it, I would be more critical. You may have noticed, though, he has been quite busy with other things beginning immediately after his delayed start in office.

Things that must be considered by any solution are: Political opposition by the minority Democrats and their rino running mates; the real impact on the economy if we could magically send them all back instantly; the resources and logistics necessary to round them up and send them back; gaining the cooperation of their home countries to take them back; and many, many more real life problems with the proposed solutions.

Remember, it is a done deal. They are here. They have political supporters here. Thirty years ago I jokingly said to many that it won't be long before they won't have to invade us, they can simply vote us out and themselves in. Well, that time has nearly arrived but the problem has grown so large that the Nike slogan of "Just Do It!" will not work.

The solution has been voiced by many - enforce the present laws and change those that interfere with the solution, like public assistance to illegals, anchor babies, shut down the borders.

Although I don't think those things can be done for the reasons I said, that is the position we must take. It will probably destroy the Republican Party in the process and that may have been part of the plan by the Democrats all along. Trying to prevent that may be what Bush is all about, I don't know. If it is he and the rinos and opportunists are wrong. Most of America, including most Hispanics, want the borders closed and the laws enforced.

My big disagreement on this particular thread is with the suggested conspiracy motives suggested. I don't believe Bush nor his father are supporters of a one world government.

[La Enchiladita]

You may have noticed, though, he has been quite busy with other things beginning immediately after his delayed start in office.

And it was that very "other thing" -- 9/11/01 -- that should have spurred the administration to seal and secure the borders.

Don't see how you can support open borders, but at least you state your case without name-calling of those of us who oppose illegal immigration and open borders.

[NathanR]

That is:

"(d) Bush meant what he said, at Waco, Texas, in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico. "

I think you are right.

[Smartass]

Source: The Minuteman Project

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A Traitor

	Benedict Arnold

The putrid stench of cowards and traitors fill the nostrils of the American people once again. Excerpts from an article by ASSOCIATED PRESS:

2:54 a.m. May 9, 2006

LOS ANGELES - The U.S. Border Patrol is alerting the Mexican government to the locations of civilian border patrol groups when the organizations help detain suspected illegal immigrants or use violence against them, according to a published report?.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Mario Martinez told the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario that the policy is meant to assure the Mexican government that migrants‘ rights are being observed.

TJ Bonner, president of the Border Patrol agents‘ union, said members have long complained that the Mexican government has undue influence over U.S. enforcement policies.

“That‘s not a legitimate role for any foreign nation, ” Bonner said.

In response to this article,

Jim Gilchrist Founder of the Minuteman Project was quoted to say:

"I am outraged that there are those within our own nation who have stooped to the depth of betraying law abiding citizens in their effort to secure our nation through the Observe and Report Minuteman process at the border. This is no doubt an attempt by some to discredit the patriotic actions of good hearted citizens who believe that the Federal Government is refusing to secure our borders.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams

 

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