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To: JustPiper

Dobbs tried to take Pence on the other night. He called him on a few things and even though Dobbs said he had read Pence's Plan, I don't think he was all that informed. Pence kept saying that it wasn't amnesty, but I think that once they are given the ok to come back into the country to work, they are also given the opportunity to become citizens. Pence acts as if sending them home for ONE day, makes it not an amnesty plan. Dobbs tried, but I think he should have been more forceful.


1,307 posted on 06/17/2006 8:29:46 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: Smartass; JustPiper; Altura Ct.; MamaDearest; nicmarlo; All

Doing some digging and ran across this website. Oddly it does not include Mexico, however interesting to review the comments and one link in particular:

United North America
http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/phpBB2/about3235-0-asc-15.html


COMMENT:

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/02/12/wal_mart_and_li_ka_shing_seen_key_to_mexico_port_expansion/

NeoNewEnglander wrote:
"I'm still trying to figure out the "why" for all this. Why do we need a road four football fields wide? Is there that much traffic that needs to get from Mexico to Kansas City and Winnipeg? Existing roads can't handle it? Why build a brand new border check facility in Kansas City? Why not just expand existing facilities THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE BORDER if they don't have enough capacity?

Here's my guess about what this is really about: This is about Wal-mart getting its cheap Chinese goods to its warehouses even faster and cheaper by bypassing West Coast ports and paying Mexicans for the entire cost of transportation. The Chinese goods never once have to touch American hands before they get to Wal-mart. And they're not even willing to deal with the delays of getting their goods through customs, so they're having American taxpayers build a special border office and super-special-fast highway just for them, all for the privilege of getting cut out of handling the transport of the goods, let alone the manufacturing. In fact, it makes moving production to China even more sensible. And we're paying the entire cost of setting this up for them. That's just brilliant.Wow - somebody's paying attention! "

"This "superhighway" is an interim tool to help lay the foundation for economic parity between Canada and Mexico, which is a primary tenet/requirement for a single, fully integrated North American economy. By bypassing the US to bring in cheap goods, cheap labor, and to enable the de-industrialization of Canada, Mexico gets a step up while Canada takes a step down.

Essentially, you end up with a situation similar to the US/Mexican border without the need of a border to enable exploitation."

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/Business/2003/12/13/285745.html
     
Canada-Mexico highway step closer
AP   2003-12-13 04:21:32  

Interstate 69, which would enhance trade opportunities created by the North American Free Trade Agreement, would connect Texas to Michigan, mainly through existing roadways.

It would be the shortest route from Mexico to Canada.

Transportation "is the lifeblood of our economy. I believe we must finish Interstate 69," U.S. SENATOR JOHN CORNYN (R--Texas), told members of the Alliance for I-69 Texas at their annual meeting. "We must recognize that this is a key project, particularly for the future of our economy and the success of Texas businesses."

I-69's border crossing ports in Texas, from Laredo to Brownsville, handle 49 per cent of all U.S. truck-borne trade with Mexico. Crossing ports in Michigan handle 47 per cent of U.S. truck-borne trade with Canada.

Other states also are working on the interstate, and Canada and Mexico are improving roadway infrastructure to handle additional trade traffic created by NAFTA. "

Just a hunch, but I wonder how much of building this railroad has required use of the recent SCOTUS passing of emminent domain? Would one have anything to do with the other?


Check this out and then the links to the rosters.....(and we wonder why companies like TYSON have never been prosecuted for hiring illegals)...

http://www.houston.org/committees/roster.asp?committee=I69-003

ALLIANCE FOR I69 ASSOCIATE MEMBERS ROSTER
Saturday, June 17, 2006

Partnership Committees, Councils and Member Programs

Sponsorship and Visibility Opportunities

Workshops and Seminars

Networking Opportunities

Major Events

Business Development Survey


Alliance for I69 Associate Members
Private and public companies, chambers and ports that support and fund the Alliance and its advocacy for I-69 Texas.

Herbert W. Appel
CEO
Greater Fort Bend Economic Development Council
One Fluor Daniel Drive Sugar Land, TX 77478-3838

Eddie Armstrong
Tyson Foods, Inc.
P.O. Box 2020 Springdale, AR 72765

Bob Arroyave
Brown & Gay Engineers, Inc.
11490 Westheimer Road, Suite 700 Houston, TX 77077-6841

Rob Bailey
ARCADIS G&M, Inc.
2710 South Medford Lufkin, TX 75901

Warren Biggs
Panola National Bank
P.O. Box 1139 Carthage, TX 75633

Brett Binkley
CEO
Binkley & Barfield, Inc.
1710 Seamist Drive Houston, TX 77008-3100

Jack Bowen
Fordyce Ltd.
P.O. Box 1417 Victoria, TX 77902-1417

Waylan Brannan
Brannan Paving Company
P.O. Box 3403 Victoria, TX 77903-3403

Christopher E. Claunch
President
Claunch & Miller Inc.
4635 Southwest Freeway, Suite 1000 Houston, TX
77027-7105

Art Clendenin
KSA Engineers, Inc.
P.O. Box 1552 Longview, TX 75601

Billy Cooke
Executive Vice President
Klotz Associates, Inc.
1160 Dairy Ashford Road, Suite 500 Houston, TX
77079-3098

Bob Cuellar
Executive Vice President
TCB
P.O. Box 130089 Houston, TX 77219-0089

James D. Dannenbaum
President & CEO
Dannenbaum Engineering Corporation
P.O. Box 22292 Houston, TX 77227-2292

Howard Hawthorne
Port of Victoria
P.O. Box 2760 Victoria, TX 75902

Bob Heitmann
Zachry Construction
527 Logwood San Antonio, TX 78221

Frank G. Jones
Co-Partner-in-Charge
Fulbright & Jaworski L.L.P.
1301 McKinney, Suite 5100 Fulbright Tower Houston, TX 77010-3095

D. Wayne Klotz
President
Klotz Associates, Inc.
1160 Dairy Ashford Road, Suite 500 Houston, TX
77079-3098

Calvin T. Ladner
President
LJA Engineering & Surveying, Inc.
2929 Briarpark Drive, Suite 600 Houston, TX 77042-3717

Chris Marshall
Golder Associates, Inc.
15603 West Hardy Toll Road, Suite 345 Houston, TX 77060

Jessie Medina
City of Pharr International Toll Bridge
9900 S. Cage Blvd. Pharr, TX 75901

Luke Motley
Farmers State Bank
P.O. Box 352 Center, TX 75935

Roberto Obregon
RODs Surveying, Inc.
6810 Lee Rd. Spring, TX 77379

Jim Payne
First State Bank & Trust Company
P.O. Box 579 Carthage, TX 75633

Gary W. Raba
COO
Raba-Kistner Consultants, Inc.
8601 Jameel Road, Suite 150 Houston, TX 77040-5064

Don Roark
Louisiana-Pacific Corporation - Carthage OSB Operations
1199 CR201 Carthage, TX 72765

David Schroeder
Executive Director
Wharton Economic Development Corporation
1944 N. Fulton Wharton, TX 77488-2845

John Snider
Shelby Savings Bank
P.O. Box 1806 Center 75395

Bill Summers
President/CEO
Rio Grande Valley Partnership
P.O Box 1499 Weslaco, TX 78599-1499

Tina Walker
Carter & Burgess, Inc.
P.O. Box 131487 Houston, TX 77219-1487

Joe Bill Watkins
Partner
Vinson & Elkins L.L.P.
One American Center 600 Congress Ave., Suite 2700 Austin, TX 78701-3200

Allen D. Watson
Vice President
Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc.
5300 Hollister, Suite 400 Houston, TX 77040-6138




1,308 posted on 06/17/2006 8:58:26 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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