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Analysis: Bush Lands in Same Hole As Dad
CBS/KFMB ^ | MAY 28, 2006 | Tom Raum

Posted on 05/28/2006 1:37:09 PM PDT by ncountylee

Through his presidency, George W. Bush has worked hard to avoid repeating the mistakes of his father. He has done almost everything differently, yet now finds himself in the same hole despite trumping his dad by winning a second term.

He is roughly at the same place in the polls where the elder Bush was at the low point of his presidency, with only about three of every 10 Americans registering approval. Like his father before him, this president faces a rebellion among conservatives, an uncertain economic outlook and the prospect of Republican losses in November.

The first President Bush liked to quote Yogi Berra, his favorite pop philosopher, and his curious take on a baseball loss: "We made too many wrong mistakes."

What were the biggest mistakes of George W. Bush's presidency? When asked that at an April 2004 news conference, he said he could not think of any. A far more subdued Bush now acknowledges some major ones _ and not the ones his father made.

They include "kind of tough talk, you know, that sent the wrong signal to people," Bush said at a Thursday news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. He said the inhumane treatment of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison was one of the darkest marks on his watch.

"Now I think he wishes he had not taken a blanket view that everything his father did was wrong," said Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas professor who has closely studied the Bush family. "Staying out of Baghdad looks like a brilliant move at this point." During the Persian Gulf War in 1991, the first President Bush did not send U.S. troops into Baghdad to oust President Saddam Hussein after the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Iraqi arm from Kuwait.

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To: JOE43270
You better read the United States Constitution so you can find out who is really in charge. The House and the Senate are not the PRESIDENT

Equal partners in govt. Both are in charge, but the president sets the agenda, and the Sentate is supposed to enforce. President nominates judges, sets energy policy, foreign policy. The Senate has to approve it. so far he's done little to convince them.

61 posted on 05/28/2006 4:53:56 PM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: ncountylee

It's way to soon to have a comparison between the two Presidents. Besides our current President Bush has several more years to go before history will record his Presidency.

People forget that no President in recent history has had to handle the things that this President has had to deal with and has shown true leadership.

No President is perfect but respect the man for the way he handled 911 and all the other challenges he has had to encounter.


62 posted on 05/28/2006 4:54:34 PM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: ncountylee

No President has driven liberals and their media to this edge of delusions and hate like President Bush. The man has simply beaten the crap out of them, and he showed them to be stupid, dumb, incompetent, wrong, and full of hate.


63 posted on 05/28/2006 4:55:07 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: tflabo

Reagan is considered by many to be the great leader of conservatism and he did give amnesty to 3 millions illegal immigrants. President Bush did not give amnesty to anyone.


64 posted on 05/28/2006 4:56:58 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ncountylee

Read my lips.

"No new amnesty!!"


65 posted on 05/28/2006 4:57:01 PM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: NRA2BFree

Hopefully the House will get a handle on the the illegal issue so W's legacy can be a free and democratic Iraq and Afghanistan. Otherwise, bad things will happen in spades .


66 posted on 05/28/2006 4:57:53 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: NRA2BFree

Did you remember President Reagan only with his amnesty to 3 million illegal immigrants?


67 posted on 05/28/2006 5:06:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ncountylee

Staying out of Baghdad is why terrorists began coming after us in the 1990's.

Despite dismantling Iraq in the 1991 war, they smelled weakness when we stopped and let the kurds and shia get slaughtered.


68 posted on 05/28/2006 7:19:57 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: kerryusama04
"W has done a lot of good. That doesn't license the bad stuff, but we're not the party of personal destruction last I checked."

I'm afraid the bad he's done still far outweighs the good. And if he succeeds in getting his immigration plan passed, all that "good" will be repealed when the Democrats get their permanent socialist majority after the grateful illegal aliens (now voting citizens) get the right to vote. At that point we can kiss the RKBA arms and the rest of the Bill of Rights goodbye.

That immigration plan is the death of the Republican party, and of our country as something other than just another SSR. The immigration fiasco is the worst thing I've ever heard of or imagined for the future of this nation.

69 posted on 05/28/2006 7:33:48 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: ncountylee

"What was your greatest mistake?" Any President is foolish to answer this question. The MSM gets to nail him with whatever he says.


70 posted on 05/28/2006 8:12:30 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Wonder Warthog
I can't find fault with your last post except that I don't think the good to bad ratio to date is all that bad for the President. The tax cuts were good and the wars were more than necessary. Just thinking about big stuff, other than McCain/Feingold, what else has he done so irreversibly bad to warrant such a condemnation? The spending is atrocious, but we can make more money. No domestic drilling is bizarre, but the oil is still there to be drilled.

If any major point from the Senate's plan becomes law, our country will suffer greatly, but it hasn't happened yet. That body needs to be held to account in a bad way (my two Senators voted the right way, btw). But George Bush isn't a Senator. He's a President with a penchant for signing whatever retarded bill comes across his desk. The Senate is to blame so far. Hopefully the House can hold the line. The best case scenario is no bill right now and a devastating 06 election cycle.

71 posted on 05/28/2006 9:55:47 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: ncountylee
"Now I think he wishes he had not taken a blanket view that everything his father did was wrong," said Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas professor who has closely studied the Bush family. "Staying out of Baghdad looks like a brilliant move at this point."

What? If it had been done then it wouldn't have had to be done recently. Amazingly stupid thing to say.

72 posted on 05/28/2006 9:59:37 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: kerryusama04
Hopefully the House will get a handle on the the illegal issue so W's legacy can be a free and democratic Iraq and Afghanistan. Otherwise, bad things will happen in spades.

Yes, and besides Iraq and Afghanistan, his tax cuts, the booming economy (in spite of two back to back Cat 5 hurricanes, the greatest terrorist attack in US history, and millions of jobs lost to outsourcing). I'm sure there are more positive things, but I can't think of any right now. I hope they're not buried under the immigration guest worker-amnesty plan, but he's so determined to have it, that I'm afraid they're going to be.

73 posted on 05/28/2006 10:11:48 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE*LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: jveritas
Did you remember President Reagan only with his amnesty to 3 million illegal immigrants?

There is no comparison! We had not had a 9-11 attack with the threat of more terrorist attacks when President Reagan gave 3 million illegals amnesty. There hadn't been an attack on a grade school in Russia that killed hundreds of children, at that time either. The images of that, plus the images of the WTC are burned into the minds of Americans. The illegals during Reagan's time didn't march through the streets of America DEMANDING RIGHTS. There weren't La Raza, MEChA or other racists marching through the streets telling Americans that America was THEIR land and telling them to go back to Europe. They let us know that they intend to take back "their land." THAT didn't sit well with any of us. Surely you can understand why Americans want the borders closed, and NO amnesty? They are a threat to Americans!! Need I go on, or can you see why it's useless to compare President Bush to President Raegan?

74 posted on 05/28/2006 10:36:29 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE*LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: ncountylee
Father and son were both big government guys. The suspicion has been that they each took more interest in foreign policy than in domestic affairs. GHWB certainly did put more into foreign -- rather than domestic -- policy. That's less true of GWB, but there's still something into it, as well.

GHWB was an establishment guy as well. GWB did his best not to be a Washington establishment regular, but in the end, he's come to look like one, thanks to his stand on immigration.

The best thing about the father was that he was a part of that WWII generation and that gave him, almost in spite of himself, a greater stature than boomer politicians have had. That's not true of the son.

But of course, every President looks weak and troubled after six or seven years. People get tired of the person in charge and on some level, have already accepted that the current leader is already on his way out. Even very successful presidents have had poor approval ratings in their second terms.

75 posted on 05/28/2006 11:01:30 PM PDT by x
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To: ncountylee

Critics compare U.S. anti-terrorism practices to 'gulag' (12/12/2005)
Tom Raum

WASHINGTON – Secret prisons in Eastern Europe. Illegal detentions. Suspects snatched off the streets and shipped without extradition to other countries for harsh interrogation.



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Remember this one?




AP Distorts Republican Senator's Remarks
Posted by Lisa Fabrizio on August 1, 2005 - 18:10.

Okay, so they call it a “Newsview,” which is, I guess, the AP’s way of sliming the administration under its supposedly unbiased banner and not being called on it. Sorry Tom Raum, you’re over the line on this one fella.

In analyzing President Bush’s recess appointment of John Bolton to the U.N., Raum dredges up all of the same adjectives used by ‘objective’ AP reporter-types when it comes to the Bushies and Bolton.

“In-your-face gesture,” “built-in handicaps,” “lame duck,” “streak of stubbornness,” “confrontational,” are just a few of the niceties that grace the prose of Mr. Raum’s tirade--fair enough when the piece is supposed to espouse an opinion. But in his commentary role, he could at least use quotes in context. Consider the following, especially the lack of an ellipsis:

Some Republicans weren't too happy, either, although they generally said they understood Bush's rationale. "I understand why the president had to do this," said Sen. George Allen, R-Va, adding: "I think it's unfortunate that he had to use this option."

The actual quote, courtesy of Mr. Raum’s friends at the AP:

"I accept and understand why the president had to do this. I think it's unfortunate that he had to use this option because John Bolton was denied the fairness of an up-or-down vote. I think John Bolton is well qualified. He is principled. And he will advocate for the U.S. taxpayers." -- Sen. George Allen, R-Va.

Mr. Raum’s byline states that he “has covered national and international affairs for Washington for The Associated Press since 1973.” That explains why this reads like one of their regular stories.


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76 posted on 05/28/2006 11:08:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: ncountylee
Re:an uncertain economic outlook

Wrong. Wong. Completely and utterly WRONG!

Unemployment has been @ 5% for YEARS!

77 posted on 05/28/2006 11:11:26 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: kcvl
Tom Raum is one of the more despicable AP hit men.
78 posted on 05/28/2006 11:11:52 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Another oldie by Raum...

PRAVDA ON THE POTOMAC


On Saturday, Raum wrote an AP story about (Michael) Moore’s remarks. Incredibly, this was his full account of the controversy about Bush’s service:

RAUM (1/17/04): The exchange recalled a controversy that was an element of the 2000 presidential campaign.

Bush served as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard from May 1968 to October 1973, mostly flying F-102 fighter interceptors. He did not go to Vietnam.

Bush spent most of his time in the Guard based near Houston, but in May 1972 he received a three-month assignment in Alabama with the 187th Tactical Recon Unit in Montgomery while he worked on a political campaign in the state.

Retired Gen. William Turnipseed, a commander at the Alabama base, said during the 2000 presidential campaign that he never saw Bush appear for duty for that unit’s drills. Bush maintains he was there, but records have never been produced to document that Bush was there.

Incredibly, Raum’s readers have now been told that there is only a three-month period at issue. Since he wrote the official AP account, Raum’s report almost surely ran in newspapers all over the country.

Does the corps tear up all the hopefuls? As we noted a few months ago, the corps fled from this topic during Campaign 2000, and totally dropped it after that (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 11/26/03). Now, Raum presents a baldly inaccurate account of the matter, and Broder’s account—while technically accurate—is as friendly to Bush as it can accurately be. After November 2000, the press corps never made the slightest attempt to sort out the issues involved in this story. No, Virginia, they don’t go after all the hopefuls. And do you see why it takes a fool to assert that they’re gripped by that vile liberal bias?



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79 posted on 05/28/2006 11:20:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: ncountylee

Another one...


AP Reporter: Bush White House Uses "Slash-and-Burn Assaults On Its Critics"

Just in time for Halloween.

- October 2005 -



In an October 19, 2005, article, veteran Associated Press reporter Tom Raum claimed (emphasis added),

Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's CIA-leak inquiry is focusing attention on what long has been a Bush White House tactic: slash-and-burn assaults on its critics, particularly those opposed to the president's Iraq war policies.

"Slash-and-burn assaults"? This sounds more like something out of a Chucky or Halloween movie.

Apparently, this is the AP's idea of "news analysis." Yet at least one place on the Web, Raum's article appears as being just another newswire story. At CNN.com, for example, Raum is not even given a byline, and the piece does not carry any kind of "News analysis" or "Commentary" heading.

Another example of the increasing blur between "news" and "analysis"? It appears so.

Hat tip to Brit Hume's Political Grapevine at Fox News Channel.


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80 posted on 05/28/2006 11:22:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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