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Kerry Pressing Swift Boat Case Long After Loss
New York TImes ^ | May 28, 2006 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:37:54 AM PDT by namvet66

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To: proudofthesouth
Other than Brit Hume there is no longer anything worthwhile on FNC.

More's the pity.

41 posted on 05/28/2006 7:55:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: mkjessup
) Joined a subversive organization (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) which acted as was a Communist fifth column on U.S. soil

There, that's now more correct.

Many of the members turned out to either not be Veterans at all, or veterans who never served in Vietnam, nor participated in the war in any way, other than being in the US Military, stateside or in other theaters, such as Germany.

42 posted on 05/28/2006 7:55:57 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: mkjessup

I still believe Kerry will never release his military record. He has too much to hide. Not because of the lies he told about his Vietnam service, but because of what he did after the war.

Kerry’s Quandary
2-20-2005

So John F. Kerry has finally agreed to sign an SF-180 and release his military record. Well, don’t hold your breath, because there is no way he will ever open up that bag of worms, and I don’t think it has anything to do with a Dishonorable Discharge from the Navy as some believe.

If Kerry had been arrested, charged with consorting with the enemy, court-martialed, and given a Dishonorable Discharge during the Nixon administration, he would have worn it as a badge of courage just as he did his phony Purple Hearts and Silver Star. The court-martial would have received more publicity than the OJ trial and he would have come out of it an even bigger hero with the liberal left than he is now.

So, in light of all the crimes that we know he committed, how is it that he was never court-martialed? Just for the sake of conjecture, let’s say maybe he was arrested, charged, court-martialed, and dishonorably discharged, but the proceedings were so embarrassing to him that he would never want the details to be made public. As I have just stated, being found guilty of consorting with the enemy would not be the reason, so what could it be?

It has been made public that Kerry was under very close surveillance by law enforcement agencies and possibly the CIA for at least two years. (Yes, the CIA could target U.S. citizens before Jimmy Carter put a stop to it.) If a person with “bad habits” is under close surveillance for any length of time, their bad habits will be found out and documented. If Kerry was arrested, charged with treason, it was made clear to him that the evidence of his “bad habit” would come to light during his trial, and he was offered the opportunity to receive leniency if he cooperated, I think a coward like Kerry would have taken the bait.

If Kerry “flipped,” as they say in the law enforcement community, became an informant (rat, snitch, etc etc), informed on his leftist liberal associates in order to receive leniency, and this information was released to the public, he would be finished both politically and socially.

Kerry obviously fears the release of his military record, and it could not possibly have anything to do with his treasonous activity with communist organizations and governments, so his fear must be based on something else. The only logical explanation as to why Kerry, a documented traitor, was never publicly court-martialed is that a Special Court-Martial was privately convened. At this court-martial, Kerry was found guilty of a lesser charge, probably “Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer,” given a less than honorable discharge, his phony medals were revoked, he cooperated with government prosecutors, and the record of proceedings was never released. This would explain Kerry’s late and mysterious issue of an Honorable Discharge and the reissue of his phony medals during the Carter administration.

It’s pure conjecture on my part, but if Kerry ever signs an SF-180, not only will his less than honorable discharge come to light, but his possible status as a CIA or FBI informant, and, of course, his “bad habit.” I leave it to your imagination to determine what kind of bad habit could possibly embarrass a liberal Democrat like John F. Kerry, but if that bit of information is ever released, I guarantee you it will be enough to gag a maggot.


43 posted on 05/28/2006 7:57:52 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: namvet66

Bump for reference-2


44 posted on 05/28/2006 8:00:15 AM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: OldFriend

I still like Fox and Friends both weekday and weekend. I just can't stand Julian.


45 posted on 05/28/2006 8:03:27 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: purpleland
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46 posted on 05/28/2006 8:04:56 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: DejaJude
Hey, Kerry, can you pull your signed 180 out of that hat and show it to all of us?

You can see copies of the 3 he signed right here

As you can see, each one is for a "one time" release to a particular individual.

If Lt. J.G. Kerry had turned in forms filled in that poorly, his CO's Chief would have turned them back for proper accomplishment. I guess no one in Kerry's many offices and organizations has heard of a typewriter. Or discovered that the pdf version of the form can be filled in and then printed, but not saved.

What a bunch of Maroons!

47 posted on 05/28/2006 8:06:11 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: DejaJude
Where did you hear this? Who has actually seen these forms?

Anyone who bothered to search on line for them.

They can be viewed on the Power Line site, where they were posted in June of last year.

48 posted on 05/28/2006 8:10:25 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: ThreeYearLurker

Well, if you consider Christmas to end on Candlemas (Feast of the Presentation of the Lord, February 2) and you employ the Eastern Orthodox tradition of using the Julian calendar, it's three days before the end of Christmas. But doesn't Kerry claim to be Roman Catholic? I'm confused again, but only because I'm really stupid.


49 posted on 05/28/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by dufekin
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To: DJ Taylor

Very plausible scenario.


50 posted on 05/28/2006 8:28:09 AM PDT by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: mkjessup

Dead on right! The focus (like Murtha) should not be on what he did in Nam, but what he did and does when he came back. Yes his heroics was a complete and utter fraud, but without hard core documentation its a he said / he said thing. What is hard core is his treason! He cannot escape that, and in the end its what truly disgusts everyone about him! Hammer his stabbling our troops in the back and his out and out lies when he came home! Compare it to the same thing he is doing to tm today! That is where the questioning of his leadership comes into play, and eventually destroys his credibility!


51 posted on 05/28/2006 8:29:02 AM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: ishabibble
Your statements are exactly the reason I want to see Kerry's discharge papers from the U.S. Navy. There is no possible way that Kerry has an honorable discharge. If he has a Clinton discharge, it's not worth the paper it's printed on...

You'll have to ask Michael Kranish of the Boston Globe about that. The form that released documents to him requested a full undeleted record of discharges for all years.

52 posted on 05/28/2006 8:31:07 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: namvet66

Bump


53 posted on 05/28/2006 8:37:38 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Jim_Curtis
Allegedly? They did it publicly.

When it's a Democrat politician or group and/or an "oppressed minority" that commits some illegal or immoral act, it's always reported as "allegedly" until the Supreme Court of the United States has heard the appeal, and sometimes even then. If a Republican, or a non minority Redneck type commits the same offense, they might, might, say allegedly in the early stories, maybe even until indictments are handed down, but after they save ink or electrons by dropping the "allegedly".

54 posted on 05/28/2006 8:38:14 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: namvet66

Here is the discussion about this article on the Swift Vets site:
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22156


55 posted on 05/28/2006 8:59:00 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: El Gato

What's really going to be hysterical is watching the media reaction if Kerry, Gore and hillary compete in the primaries, along with the "maverick" McCain on the R side.
It's goin to be like being in bed with your girlfriend, having your other girlfriend show up unexpectedly, and then having your third girlfriend call and leave a message on your answering machine.
Hillarious.


56 posted on 05/28/2006 9:01:57 AM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: mikeybaby

Skerry is so full of it his eyes are turning brown already.


57 posted on 05/28/2006 9:05:10 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: namvet66
"I have the hat."

Kerry also has the medals that he bragged about throwing over the White House Wall, only he later said it wasn't the medals after all, because there they are, right in his office, and it was just "ribbons" that he threw.

Was is that say about the "tangled web we weave?" ...
58 posted on 05/28/2006 9:10:07 AM PDT by George - the Other (Ever Notice How Narrow-Minded Atheists Are?)
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To: gardencatz; All

This discussion was linked in a comment on the Swiftie site:
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/05/bring_it_on.html#comments

It is a VERY good discussion, with lots of links and thoughtful posts from commenters.

This feels like the summer of '04 all over again. Kerry, get lost, traitor.


59 posted on 05/28/2006 9:14:25 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: namvet66

What is that in Kerry's mouth?

60 posted on 05/28/2006 9:42:06 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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