Posted on 05/28/2006 6:35:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
WASHINGTON — The constitutional showdown that followed the FBI's search of a congressman's office came down to this: The House threatened budgetary retaliation against the Justice Department. Justice officials raised the prospect of resigning.
That scenario, as described Saturday by a senior administration official, set the stage for President Bush's intervention into the fight over the FBI's search of the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., an eight-term lawmaker being investigated on bribery allegations.
During contentious conversations between the Department of Justice and the House, top law enforcement officials indicated that they'd rather quit than return documents FBI agents, armed with a warrant, seized in an overnight search of Jefferson's office, the administration official said.
Until last Saturday night, no such warrant had ever been used to search a lawmaker's office in the 219-year history of the Congress. FBI agents carted away records in their pursuit of evidence that Jefferson accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in exchange for helping set up business deals in Africa.
After the raid, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill, lodged a protest directly with Bush, demanding that the FBI return the materials. Bush struck a compromise Thursday, ordering that the documents be sealed for 45 days until congressional leaders and the Justice Department agree on what to do with them.
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Can you point me to the section of the US Constitution whereby "the people" have exempted Congressfolks from the Supreme Law of the Land?
In the case of a misdial, a warrant can be easily issued based on the presumption that the number was dialed deliberately. If that presumption can not be made, then any dialing of a known suspected terrorist must be presumed to be misdialed.
You can't have it one way and not the other.
See post 150 and thanks to the poster who posted it.
"And I'm saying that if known suspected terrorists' numbers dialed from American soil are not investigated, the program has no value at all."
They are. So is it now your argument that warrants shouldn't be applicable to those dialed from American soil?
This is not Elian Gonzales or Waco or Ruby Ridge.
This is Law and Order. But, I'm a simple man.
No, by misdialing a number of a known suspected terrorist number, or someone whose number is recorded as having called a known suspected terrorist number.
"No, by misdialing a number of a known suspected terrorist number, or someone whose number is recorded as having called a known suspected terrorist number."
You are terribly confused by the whole thingy. In the case quoted by you above, a warrant initiated by the executive branch and approved by the judicial branch would be required in order for it to happen.
Not to rain on your conspiracy, but Africa is a pretty big continent, with many MANY people.
Your alleged reasoning is akin to Michael Moore positing a cozy relationship between Bush and the Taliban because some members of the latter visited private businesses in Texas while he was governor.
sub (under) poena (penalty / punishment).
My spelling has gone to absolute hell; but I can still spell a few words
Noooooooo BE...not on your LIFE! I would not betray the veterans in my family or my country by giving in or giving up.
Just experiencing some momentary sorrow..it'll pass and I'll suck it up:)
Actually, I'd be just as afraid if all this were turned over to a computer program. Then, we would have to worry about bugs in the program. But, at some point information has to be presented to a human evaluation and action.
You seem terribly upset with the notion that human beings in bureaucratic jobs make mistakes from incompetence, or deliberately in bad faith, and computer programs can have bugs (do you use Windows?).
No they're not. Not by a million miles.
When did you arrive on our planet?
Good points all. Add to your cogent observations that once abusive power comes into the hands of those now out of power, we get the sort of never fixed abuse such as an unelected individual (hitlery clintoon) taking possession of FBI files on more than a thousand 'people of interest' to the political operative. [BTW, as you may know, bill clinton's administration under Reno had the FBI waste their valuable time 'looking into my life' rather than chasing down Islamofascist terrorists, just because I'm outspoken on the abortion issue.]
A good ole boy system, otherwise known as a criminal enterprise. They put on a show in front of cameras and act like enemies toward each other, while laughing all the way to the bank once the cameras stop rolling. The voting public has either been apathetic or fooled this entire time.
I keep thinking of an analysis I read about the prophesy in Daniel and the feet of clay, that the clay was democracy mixed with empire and that's where we are now. The inmates (clay) have started running the asylum and the world is turned upside down.
"They are"? You previously said that only numbers from outside the country were trapped.
I'm saying that warrants can easily be issued by mistake using the presumption of a deliberately dialed number when that was not the case.
Then you have investigation of an innocent American.
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