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EVEREST UPDATE: (David) Sharp unrescuable, says Chinese mountaineer (mom not angry)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-05/28/content_601895.htm ^ | 5/28/06

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:06:47 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Sharp unrescuable, says Chinese mountaineer

Updated: 2006-05-28 09:14

Chinese female mountaineer Luo Lili regretted David Sharp's death in the Mount Qomolangma but said the British climber was at a nearly unrescuable height.

"Mountaineers all know the height above 7,000m is very dangerous and usually deemed as an unrescuable height," said Luo on Saturday, who just returned from a May 15 scaling of the world highest peak.

Sharp, 34, ran out of oxygen and died in a snow cave just 300 meters from the summit on his way down the Himalayan mountain. Dozens of people had walked right past him, unwilling to risk their own lives.

The world is angry. Sir Edmund Hillary, who was on the team that first surmounted Mt Qomolangma in 1953, called it "horrifying" that climbers would leave a dying man.

Luo disagreed with Hillary.

"At 8,534 metes where Sharp died, every climber feels worn out and was unable to offer help," she said.

"I had once been trapped at where Sharp died and a dozen climbers, including David Sharp, walked past me."


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KEYWORDS: china; davidsharp; doubleamputee; everest; greenboots; india; luolili; markinglis; mteverest; nepal; newzealand; phurbatashi; russellbrice; siredmundhillary
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To: Racehorse

I agree with you. The morning papers often tell of those who died trying to rescue somebody. You have to calculate your ability to do that you set out to do!


21 posted on 05/28/2006 7:04:13 AM PDT by RoadTest (For the love of money is the root of all evil - I Timothy 6:10)
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To: Mr. Brightside
And you are free to take the opinion of a person who was NOT an eye witness, and was last on the mountain when Dwight Eisenhower was president.

I think I pretty much said the same thing, didn't I?

But you really don't believe the article writer was an eyewitness, do you?  What else might Sir Edmund have meant by his comment?  The reporter and maybe the editor only gave what they chose to report about what somebody else said they did or didn't do.

22 posted on 05/28/2006 7:14:57 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Drew68

Terrific, heartbreaking book and TV movie. The selfishness of certain wealthy and vacuous people! Never mind that one woman was pulled and pushed up the mountain and likely carried back down. What a waste for the mountaineers who lost their lives. My sympathies to their widows.


23 posted on 05/28/2006 7:42:27 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Freedom4US
Everest doesn't have that much - it may be the highest mountain, but not the toughest.

I believe that for mountaineers, K-2 is considered a greater challenge than Everest.

24 posted on 05/28/2006 7:51:14 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: originalbuckeye
The selfishness of certain wealthy and vacuous people!

The numbers in post #2 really tell the story of how many people are climbing Everest. And it looks like those numbers are just the summits and not the attempts.

There's got to be so much litter and detrius on that mountain by now. I imagine some day it will be closed off.

25 posted on 05/28/2006 7:54:12 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Racehorse

If you don't want to believe eye witness testimony. That's fine.

And regarding Hilary's opinion, it would be similiar to Rosa Parks (if she was still alive) supporting the account of the black stripper who claimed she was raped by the Duke lacrosse team. She wasn't there and didn't witness what went on.

So her testimony, like Hilary's would not be much use in proving your point.

I will follow the evidence, not blindly following the opinions of legends who did not see what went on.


26 posted on 05/28/2006 8:07:39 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
re: Gotta love people who are so bent on getting to the summit that they'll go right past a dying person. Everest climbers are a real classy bunch. Let me guess, "The dying guy wanted us to make it.")))

Do you ever read the rhetoric surrounding a death in the boxing ring? There was one a few months back in Las Vegas, where a Mexican (had been deported for a violent crime, but was "redeemed" by a few Texas liberals who paid for his lawyers) beat the brains out of a black guy. All for the delectation of the crowd.

After getting "killer" status, the boxer expressed deep sympathy but said that the loser loved the sport just as much as he did...yadayadayada...

There's something that happens to people who'll die for a stupid bragging right--they're willing for others to die, too.

27 posted on 05/28/2006 8:14:56 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mr. Brightside
Sharp, 34, ran out of oxygen and died in a snow cave just 300 meters from the summit

At that location on Everest it is impossible...let me repeat...IMPOSSIBLE... to rescue someone who is unable to stand.

28 posted on 05/28/2006 8:26:53 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Yeah, but I generally don't lose sleep over people who deliberately put themselves in harm's way like this just for the hell of it. It's not as if Sharp were some guy who just broke down on the side of a road somewhere.


29 posted on 05/28/2006 8:33:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
I generally don't lose sleep over people who deliberately put themselves in harm's way like this just for the hell of it. It's not as if Sharp were some guy who just broke down on the side of a road somewhere.

This quote from the Chinese climber makes the story even more interesting.

"I had once been trapped at where Sharp died and a dozen climbers, including David Sharp, walked past me."

30 posted on 05/28/2006 8:46:45 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: eddie willers
At that location on Everest it is impossible...let me repeat...IMPOSSIBLE... to rescue someone who is unable to stand.

Not if you are a TRUE Good Samaritan.

(...rolling eyes...)

31 posted on 05/28/2006 8:47:53 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
So her testimony, like Hilary's would not be much use in proving your point.

I will follow the evidence, not blindly following the opinions of legends who did not see what went on.

ROFLMAO.

You're speculating about newspaper reports.  Not evidence.

Conclusions from past official inquiries, if there are any, may absolutely provide the kinds of testimony and evidence you think you're getting now.  Or, not.

Hey, I liked Ike.

32 posted on 05/28/2006 9:14:09 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Eepsy

"Bring out your dead!"


33 posted on 05/28/2006 9:27:54 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: Mr. Brightside
This quote from the Chinese climber makes the story even more interesting.

"I had once been trapped at where Sharp died and a dozen climbers, including David Sharp, walked past me."

Which begs the question - if the trek is so dangerous, why are people willing to do it more than once? Seriously, risking your life once to say you "did it" is one thing. Going up and down the thing like a trip to a convenience store is another. Do they have some sort of death wish? Are they like the gays who purposely try to get AIDS so they don't feel 'left out' of the experience?

Yes, I'm sure some of them get paid large sums to help others reach the peak but when even the experienced ones can die, why should any sane person take the risk?

I think someone had the right idea - rename it "Mt. Darwin".

34 posted on 05/28/2006 9:41:34 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Sort of like Jack Murtha and Iraq...


35 posted on 05/28/2006 9:46:01 AM PDT by szweig
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To: Mr. Brightside
I can understand the decision that a rescue is too dangerous even though the firemen in NY faced a similar decision on 9/11 and chose differently. What I cannot understand is that no one stayed with him while he lay dying.Those on their way up surely had enough oxygen to be with him while he laid dying and provide comfort.
36 posted on 05/28/2006 9:50:55 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: szweig
Sort of like Jack Murtha and Iraq...

Good one.  Sort of.  Murtha probably collects his evidence from newspaper reports too.  :-)

37 posted on 05/28/2006 9:56:01 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
So, one of every twelve climbers dies in the attempt. A far larger percentage suffers severe frostbite or other physical damage.

And still they come.

38 posted on 05/28/2006 9:57:56 AM PDT by JCEccles (“It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” Jefferson)
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To: Tall_Texan
You guessed it - it is entirely for the "experience" and nothing more. Let me prove my point. Say this announcement was made: "Mount Everest will now be closed until a decent rescue system is in place to keep this from happening again." I'd bet a 100 bucks that there are those climbing or contemplating climbing Everest who would say they would no longer do that if this scenario occurred because it "no longer would be the same thrill or as natural." People with money and the desire to push the envelope up against death - yeah, a dangerous and selfish crowd who are not getting a lot of sympathy for their callousness towards fellow mankind.
39 posted on 05/28/2006 10:04:18 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Dozens of people had walked right past him, unwilling to risk their own lives.

My disgust is with the posse that was with him and left him behind. I would have thought that at the first signs of serious illness several of them would have turned around with him and started back down.

But thats just me and I don't climb mountains.....

40 posted on 05/28/2006 10:16:40 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't make me have to call Jack Bauer.......)
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