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Congressmen Move to Water Down Sarbanes-Oxley Act
Daily Telegraph ^ | May 28, 2006 | Nicholas Wapshott

Posted on 05/27/2006 10:54:24 PM PDT by RWR8189

Three US congressmen are pushing for an amendment to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX), the law designed to make executives more accountable, in a bid to water down the regulations for medium-sized companies.

Gregory Meeks, a Democrat, has joined Republicans Tom Feeney and Pete Sessions to introduce an amendment to the Act that would exempt companies with a market value of less than $700m (£377m) or annual revenue of less than $125m and fewer than 1,500 shareholders from having to comply with the regulations.

The unusual cross-party move comes just days after Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling, the two top executives of Enron, were convicted of plundering the company. SOX was introduced in an attempt to prevent another Enron fraud. It was welcomed in 2002 for establishing a standard of good practice for the governance of a public company, the provision of adequate accounting oversight, the independence of auditors and the need for extensive financial dis-closure.

However, it soon became clear that the law loaded small com-panies with unreasonable red tape and expenses. Paul Williams, the president of Toussaint Capital Partners, estimates that the law costs each business $3m to $4m to meet the reporting requirements of the Act and $1m to $2m in additional costs. "It's literally driving companies overseas," Williams said.

Feeney told Congress: "Companies are spending a significant portion of their bottom line complying with regulations instead of offering more employee benefits and dividends."

The damaging effects of the Act are most noticeable in the raising of capital for new companies. "The high burden of regulation and compliance is potentially outsourcing America's lead in the world's capital markets. More companies are increasingly turning to London or Luxembourg instead of New York," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; biggovernment; governmentregulation; govwatch; oxley; regulation; sarbanes; sarbanesoxley
Sarbanes-Oxley, even more than McCain-Feingold is one of the worst things to come out of the last 5 years.
1 posted on 05/27/2006 10:54:26 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

for small-cap companies, this has been a killer. I have seen numerous profitable co's trying to go private/delist themselves to get out of the expenses this law carries for them.


2 posted on 05/27/2006 11:23:54 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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"Sarbanes-Oxley, even more than McCain-Feingold is one of the worst things to come out of the last 5 years."

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I agree. Congress always responds to everything with more laws and more regulation, regardless that those things make everything much worse.

They should repeal both of these abominations.
3 posted on 05/27/2006 11:24:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Sarbanes-Oxley is a dog that needs to be brought to heel.


4 posted on 05/27/2006 11:40:04 PM PDT by dalight
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To: RWR8189
Good.

In 2002 I was hired to handle world-wide pricing issues for my company. These days I spend 40+ hours per week dealing with SOX 404... it is a xxxxxxx joke with the auditors running, smiling all the way to the bank with their billable hours.

The "statesmen" known as senators Sarbanes and Oxley should be made to sit in a room and deal with this beast they've created until the end of times.

5 posted on 05/27/2006 11:42:28 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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I attended a small alumni job fair hosted by my alum's business school right before SOX became law. A SOX compliance auditing firm offered every accounting major a job on the spot pretty much if the person was even minimumly qualified. 100+ positions to fill as fast a possible.

I knew then this law was going to get out of hand.

SOX compliance has become one of the few job creation engines for well paying jobs in the finance field in NJ in the last 3 years. The SOX laws just suck companies dry do to compliance costs, and provide no added value to the companies. Complete nonsense.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 12:38:05 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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The company I work for was delisted recently for it's inability to comply with this law. Life may be better on the pink sheets and of course all that money spent on accountants can now go to the bottom line. This law has been a nightmare for corporate America.


7 posted on 05/28/2006 4:20:08 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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I just finished a contract where part of the work was for SOX compliance. When I read the law it seemed created to be impossible to fully comply with - where the law could be understood at all!


8 posted on 05/28/2006 4:25:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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red tape = SOX


9 posted on 05/28/2006 4:26:14 AM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: saganite

FORM 15

CERTIFICATION AND NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF REGISTRATION UNDER SECTION 12(g) OF
THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934 OR SUSPENSION OF DUTY TO FILE REPORTS UNDER
SECTIONS 13 AND 15(d) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934.


10 posted on 05/28/2006 4:28:40 AM PDT by dakine
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Wanna get rid of SOX? Make it apply to Congress.


11 posted on 05/28/2006 4:28:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Please, please, please, please, please get rid of it! I'm sick of doing SOX audit stuff at work. I have better things to do with my time. Unfortunately, I work for a larger company so this is unlikely to help. :-(


12 posted on 05/28/2006 4:31:04 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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The good news is that SOX, as constituted now, will eventually apply to EVERY organization that transacts business, including state and local governments (yes, I know they're not subject to it, but they will eventually have to do it anyway - a lot ofthem have told me they're anticipating it). At the point it starts causing them pain and wasting money they don't have (on something OTHER than social programs), you'll see it change dramatically.


13 posted on 05/28/2006 4:35:32 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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>>When I read the law it seemed created to be impossible to fully comply with - where the law could be understood at all!

See the first quote on my FR profile page.


14 posted on 05/28/2006 4:40:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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SOX also caused the loss of many mid & senior level jobs at larger corporations due to the new reporting regulations surrounding stock option compensation.
15 posted on 05/28/2006 4:40:20 AM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Wolfie
Wanna get rid of SOX? Make it apply to Congress.

Perfect.

16 posted on 05/28/2006 5:04:19 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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Congressmen Move to Water Down Sarbanes-Oxley Act

Sarbanes-Oxley needs to go, it was a bad idea from the beginning. Our congress critters are out of touch with reality...unlike them, it is the U.S. citizen who typically suffers from the consequences of bad legislation. Of course, all congress critters care about is their political career, getting re-elected and giving themselves raises/perks.

17 posted on 05/28/2006 5:19:53 AM PDT by guestfox01 ("The only two things you can truly depend upon are gravity and greed." - Jack Palance)
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To: JerseyHighlander
SOX compliance has become one of the few job creation engines for well paying jobs in the finance field in NJ in the last 3 years.

I know what you mean. I know someone who was a QA tester in systems at KPMG in NJ and just with KPMG listed on her resume was getting calls like crazy for IT audit positions. Yet she had no knowledge of finance -- or IT auditing for that matter. It's crazy.

18 posted on 05/28/2006 5:30:24 AM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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I am working on starting a business and have met with my CPA firm about capital and structure strategies. It is clear that, at the very least, SOX has moved the cost of being publicly listed quite a bit higher in terms of cost.

The simple implication of this is that a company has to be far larger today to afford to do this. An essential part of capital strategy is how early investors can get compensated for the risk they took. For a company that starts from zero but has well-founded expectations of solid growth, that compensation used to take place at the firm's Initial Public Offering.

SOX pretty much imposes a lot of burdens on companies that are starting, but who eventually hope to have an IPO. At the very least, the financial audits must be up to spec all along the way or there is great cost in trying to bring the books up to SOX compliance.

All this has the effect of driving "proto-public" companies (companies working towards their IPO) away from going public and into private equity. Private firms do not have the disclosure requirements that public firms do, nor do they offer their shareholders the same "liquidity", or ability to buy and sell shares. Of course, this also denies the public the opportunity to share in the company's growth and wealth creation.

Believe it or not the United States is the world's largest tax-haven, for non-US persons. That is because the US doesn't impose income or capital gains taxes on non-US investors who own shares in US-listed stocks.

SOX is cutting off the ability of small private firms to be listed on US exchanges. Fewer small firms being listed eventually means fewer medium sized firms and fewer larger firms. The US Dollar in part is supported by the tremendous amount of money that flows into our capital markets, money that will go where the stocks go to be listed. None of this benefits the US in the long run.

At the very least Congress needs to examine the costs of SOX and raise the minimum size of business that SOX applies to, that is, after considering what little real benefit comes from SOX as it now exists.
19 posted on 05/28/2006 6:17:46 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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