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Official details FBI-Congress standoff
Associated Press ^ | May. 27, 2006 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 05/27/2006 4:03:32 PM PDT by Dubya

WASHINGTON - The constitutional showdown that followed the FBI's search of a congressman's office came down to this: The House threatened budgetary retaliation against the Justice Department. Justice officials raised the prospect of resigning.

That scenario, as described Saturday by a senior administration official, set the stage for President Bush's intervention into the fight over the FBI's search of the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., an eight-term lawmaker being investigated on bribery allegations.

During contentious conversations between the Department of Justice and the House, top law enforcement officials indicated that they'd rather quit than return documents FBI agents, armed with a warrant, seized in an overnight search of Jefferson's office, the administration official said.

Until last Saturday night, no such warrant had ever been used to search a lawmaker's office in the 219-year history of the Congress. FBI agents carted away records in their pursuit of evidence that Jefferson accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in exchange for helping set up business deals in Africa.

After the raid, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill, lodged a protest directly with Bush, demanding that the FBI return the materials. Bush struck a compromise Thursday, ordering that the documents be sealed for 45 days until congressional leaders and the Justice Department agree on what to do with them.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and his deputy, Paul McNulty, were said to be ready to quit if the Justice Department was asked to return the Jefferson documents, the senior administration official said on condition of anonymity. The resignation of FBI Director Robert Mueller also was implied, the official said.

"But none of these guys ever said to the White House that they were going to take that action," the official said, playing down any implication that the threatened resignations were the reason the president decided to seal the documents.

"You didn't have them (the law enforcement officials) marching up and threatening insubordination," said the official, who is familiar with discussions between the House and Justice Department. "It was more like `Well, if that happens, than this will happen.'"

The House was threatening to go after the Justice Department's budget, and with both sides taking entrenched positions, the president stepped in as a mediator, the official said.

"In one of the conversations, both sides sort of backed off, even," the official said, adding that with a cooling-off period both sides have an interest in resolving the dispute.

House leaders acknowledged Friday that FBI agents with a court-issued warrant can legally search a congressman's office, but they said they want procedures established.

Gonzales was similarly optimistic. "We've been working hard already and we'll continue to do so pursuant to the president's order," he told The Associated Press on Friday.

In an editorial page article in USA Today on Friday, Hastert said he and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., have directed House lawyers "to develop reasonable protocols and procedures that will make it possible for the FBI to go into congressional offices to constitutionally execute a search warrant."

The new talks are aimed at establishing guidelines for any future searches that might stem from federal investigations, including a widening Capitol Hill influence-peddling probe centered on convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; bushbash; fbi; williamjefferson
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1 posted on 05/27/2006 4:03:36 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya

I've never seen a better argument for Congressional term limits.


2 posted on 05/27/2006 4:04:57 PM PDT by aimhigh
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House leaders acknowledged Friday that FBI agents with a court-issued warrant can legally search a congressman's office, but they said they want procedures established.


3 posted on 05/27/2006 4:05:11 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: aimhigh

We can impose term limits in just a little over five months. Right now I'm for sending them all home permanently. If any can change my mind I'll give them some consideration.


4 posted on 05/27/2006 4:10:01 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Dubya

The House threatened budgetary retaliation against the Justice Department.

The crime of the century and no one cares.


5 posted on 05/27/2006 4:10:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: aimhigh

Looks like congress critters could have the same procedures that Joe six pack would get, if it were warranted..


6 posted on 05/27/2006 4:10:42 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Dubya

procedures? Is that like, giving them notice before the fact?


7 posted on 05/27/2006 4:11:16 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Dubya

I've been asking for several days about a thread here from the 23rd that the House General Council had copies of the subpoenaed (sp?) info for several weeks and refused to turn them over to the FBI. It seems to me that if they'd turned it over, this whole dust up could have been avoided.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1636999/posts


8 posted on 05/27/2006 4:12:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: bnelson44

How else will Congressmen have time to remove evidence if they aren't afforded certain, ahem, "procedures"?


9 posted on 05/27/2006 4:13:07 PM PDT by kenth
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To: JoanneSD

Dittos!


10 posted on 05/27/2006 4:13:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Freedom or a baloney sandwich? A DemocRAT will ALWAYS choose the baloney sandwich.)
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To: Dubya
What kind of "Procedures"?
Procedures that I as a Citizen would not be entitled to?
Is not this President obstructing Justice by sealing these documents?
Would he seal documents taken from MY home under a warrant?

This is really pissing me off !!!! If it weren't for the records and archives I like to take a torch to the Dam place and run 'em all out of town on a rail
11 posted on 05/27/2006 4:14:00 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: aimhigh

Everybody wants term limits....for somebody else's Congressman.


12 posted on 05/27/2006 4:15:17 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Dubya
Until last Saturday night, no such warrant had ever been used to search a lawmaker's office in the 219-year history of the Congress.

No wonder we have so damn many crooks in Congress. They make the laws for the rest of us not to include themselves.

13 posted on 05/27/2006 4:15:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dubya
yea, like heads up so they can move the evidence. This is Bull***

The Burger court has already weighed in on this:

"The prosecution of appellee is not prohibited by the Speech or Debate Clause. Although that provision protects Members of Congress from inquiry into legislative acts or the motivation for performance of such acts, United States v. Johnson, 383 U.S. 169, 185, it does not protect all conduct relating to the legislative process. Since, in this case, prosecution of the bribery charges does not necessitate inquiry into legislative acts or motivation, the District Court erred in holding that the Speech or Debate Clause required dismissal of the indictment. Pp. 507-529."
14 posted on 05/27/2006 4:16:23 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg
Thank you for posting this... if you could find this ( It leaves no question nor room for debate ) why can't our #$@ing president?????
15 posted on 05/27/2006 4:19:37 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: tet68

I agree, Hastert and Pelosi should be cited for obstruction of justice -- threatening to stop an investigation by pulling funds from the justice department. The hissy fits thrown by these individuals (and I will include Frist, Gingrich, and Lott in that crowd) demonstrates that have NO leadership skills. How dare they put themselves above the law and telegraph to the american people that they are "special"! Jefferson ignored the subpoena for months; if a rule is to be established it should be that a congressman who ignores a valid subpoena should be expelled from the congress.


16 posted on 05/27/2006 4:19:44 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Dubya
'Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., an eight-term lawmaker being investigated on bribery allegations."

ALLEGATIONS!!! He was caught red-handed. That's why this "unprecedented" warrant was granted BY THE COURT!!

But the spineless elephants of Congress will bend over once again and take it like a "man" as they have been doing for over 5 years. Why is it that when "conservatives" reach the federal level of gov't, they go limp, wrist and all?

17 posted on 05/27/2006 4:20:00 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Dubya
House leaders acknowledged Friday that FBI agents with a court-issued warrant can legally search a congressman's office, but they said they want procedures established.

And here are Hasserts new rules:

1) 24 hours advance notice so members can delete all hard drives of child porn!

2) FBI can only search in areas members say they can!

3) Cops must allow erratic and wrong way driving at 3 am if a member is drunk and late for a vote!

4) The woman in the car is always the Congressman's wife....even if there are 3 of them

5) Bigamy is legal to members of Congress!

6) Hookers count as interns!

7) Any white powdery lines on desks or mirrors are always considered to be anthrax!

8) Spare cash in freezers found in a Congressman office is to be left alone! He is guarding it while the lock in the Social Security lock box is being fixed!

9) Anyone with bad hair does not have to prove they are a member of Congress, and can punch cops!

10) Late night three-some sessions of Congress are not to be interpreted (see rules 4 and 6)

18 posted on 05/27/2006 4:22:06 PM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: bnelson44
procedures? Is that like, giving them notice before the fact?

Yea....you know....enough advance notice so they can clean the place out and find a new freezer to stash the cash.

19 posted on 05/27/2006 4:22:34 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Dubya
The House was threatening to go after the Justice Department's budget

Who, exactly, made those threats, I wonder? Hastert?

20 posted on 05/27/2006 4:22:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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