To: Dave S
How about waiting until the investigation is done and the Marines have been given a fair trial (if one is needed).
I'll come down on the side of my brothers each and every time before I'll come down on the side of jihadists and those people who assisted directly or indirectly in the murder of 3000 of our citizens and other nationals.
Semper Fi Devil Dogs.
61 posted on
05/27/2006 11:40:38 AM PDT by
Leatherneck_MT
(An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
To: Leatherneck_MT; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; ...
Yes, the rush to judgment from many quarters has been appalling. Everyone who is taking the Murtha line needs to slow down and get a grip. Obviously there may be something seriously wrong since the investigation seems to be serious, but we do not know the facts and JOHN MURTHA DOES NOT KNOW THE FACTS.
One thing I have not seen discussed in this context is that Haditha was one of the worst Islamo-fascist hellholes on earth. That does not mean that "anything goes" for our side, but it does mean that reasonable people should consider all the ways in which evidence and the entire situation may have been manipulated before accepting anything said about this matter.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1553969,00.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468284/posts#comment?q=1
That's not to say there could not have been wrongdoing by our side, but we'd better be really certain the local terrorists are not manufacturing and/or manipulating the evidence before we accept such a conclusion. It does not mean that IF (big IF) any rules of enagement were violated, etc. that those responsible will not have to bear the legal consquences. HOWEVER, hardly anyone seems to be recognizing that (1) there is a strong possibility of a propaganda set-up here, and if exhaustive evidence was not collected at the time before there could be any local tampering then I would not believe ANYTHING that did not get ironclad corroboration; (2) IF there were inappropriate killings they could well have come from accompanying Iraqi troops OR the local Islamo-fascists who wanted to create a propaganda event; (3) IF all killings there were done by our Marines we are far from having any reliable knowledge that there were no manipulations of the evidence and circumstances after the fact.
Knowing what we know about the terrorists, I sure hope our investigators are giving every consideration to every possible type of manipulation of evidence, bodies, etc. that could occur. It would be much more likely that the terrorists would kill people to manufacture an atrocity for our side than to believe that our Marines shot anyone in "cold blood" etc.
Also, I've seen reference to killings done by US weapons, but if this were a set-up it would hardly be the first time that enemies had used the other side's stolen or captured weaponry to stage an "atrocity incident."
65 posted on
05/27/2006 12:54:16 PM PDT by
Enchante
(General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
To: Leatherneck_MT
Are you surprised that this wasn't a wedding?
Pray for W and Our Brave Marines
69 posted on
05/27/2006 1:25:02 PM PDT by
bray
(Top 10 Bushbot!!)
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