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To: misterrob
Opposing viewpoints are now "screeds"? You are using words and characterizations the way a Reuters article would.

I'll support House conservatives and those few conservatives who are in the Senate, and try to find strategies for gaining a conservative majority in Congress and to put a conservative in the Executive. Sometimes that will necessitate working with non-conservative GOP party members on issues we agree on, such as taxes and judges and the WOT. Otherwise, we need to open our eyes to what is going on and figure out how to deal with it before we are swamped by an influx of voters that puts us back into the minority for good.

What we have in reality is America circa 1856. We had Whigs and Democrats and this new group called Republicans that is in the mix. The Whigs are in the middle, the moderates of their time. The Republicans, like Conservatives today, didn't want moderation on things on which there should not be compromise. They wanted an end to slavery. Within a few years, there was no whig party.

That same old GOP that replaced the whigs is now in danger of going the way of the whigs, by trying to be "dem-lite".

About your loose horse: If we can't enact policies to get 12 million invaders to remove themselves from our soil, then we do not deserve to survive another generation. That is a ridiculous claim that is made by the all-knowing elites, "well, we can't just deport 12 million people". BS. We can, we just don't want to, because Kofi Annan would say mean things about us. Besides, we don't have to deport most of them, we just need to take away their jobs and their benefits.

Those with no historical frame of reference fail to recall that it was only in recent decades that the US courts decreed that we have to give schooling and welfare and medical care to illegal aliens. Nowhere in the REAL constitution do we have to do these things, and a re-examination of the 9th Circus and other precedents on this issue may be called for. Get rid of all the magnets that allow Mexicans to bring whole families over the border and that will reduce the 12 million before we even have to start taking their jobs and deporting them.

You are right that we may not see mass deportations, but it is not because we lack the ability, only the will.

You have not seen in any of my posts that I suggested that we should vote for Dems or independents in place of Republicans. We do need a strategy for success, and that may at some point cause a divergence with Republican party goals. We shall see. In any event, there is nothing wrong with anger and disgust with Republicans who have allowed an immigration bill that effectively destroys the demographic composition of this nation.

41 posted on 05/26/2006 6:50:06 PM PDT by Defiant (I was willing to fight to the death for George W. Bush, but not to America's death.)
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To: Defiant
there is nothing wrong with anger and disgust with Republicans who have allowed an immigration bill that effectively destroys the demographic composition of this nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And many of us ARE angry, and are thinking about what to do!

44 posted on 05/26/2006 7:04:29 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Defiant

I don't like the fact that we have so many illegals in this country and I blame both Bush and the current Republican party as they were the ones in charge. I consider the failure to enforce our borders to be an impeachable offense.

I also believe that the failure of the drug war has been on part to the failure to stop demand. The same parallel holds true here for immigration. Dry up the benefits, cut off the jobs, deny services and Christ Almighty, what moron came up with "Catch and Release" as a policy?

When I made the point about the deportations not happening it was implied that there is no national will to effect such an effort.


50 posted on 05/26/2006 7:15:38 PM PDT by misterrob
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