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White House compares illegal immigration to speeding
The Examiner ^ | May 26, 2006 | Bill Sammon

Posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by VU4G10

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2005signups; 2pathetic4words; aliens; alottanoobshere; amnesty; anmesty; antigop; borders; bushbash; coco; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; notreallygop; rinocrats; sammon; snow; tonysnow; unappeaseables
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To: tobyhill

It was a joke.Give me a break.


221 posted on 05/26/2006 7:16:47 PM PDT by heights
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To: heights
I apologize for calling you an idiot troll but your comment lacked the "joke" and was just an insult in my opinion.
222 posted on 05/26/2006 7:20:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill

Ok.Lets call a truce. I will re-think my comments.


223 posted on 05/26/2006 7:23:26 PM PDT by heights
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie
"Why isn't the clueless Senate expected to drop their opposition to the House bill? Hmmm?"

Because the Democrats and Rino's in the senate have the backing of the Rino's in the whitehouse.

224 posted on 05/26/2006 7:23:55 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: heights

I don't carry over thoughts or comments from one thread to another so a truce is a given as should be on FR.


225 posted on 05/26/2006 7:25:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: AmeriBrit

And? What's the downside to this monster?


226 posted on 05/26/2006 7:27:22 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: VU4G10

Shove it...White House.


227 posted on 05/26/2006 7:28:22 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: HKMk23

At least Scott McClelland seemed uncomfortable pumping that lying sunshine up our asses. Tony smiles and with a whiskey tenor voice has moved through life and his job as a quick talking confidence man. We are not biting any more WhITE HOUSE. Better listen up.


228 posted on 05/26/2006 7:29:26 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: trubluolyguy

Do you think this is payback for taking down the supreme court nominee by true conservatives?


229 posted on 05/26/2006 7:32:41 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: trubluolyguy; All

People need to know that Tony is not just spouting the Bush Admin position but that this is, and has been, HIS POSITION.


230 posted on 05/26/2006 7:37:06 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: VU4G10
"You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Aw geeez, Not this time Tony.
231 posted on 05/26/2006 7:38:30 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: krunkygirl

i thought that everyone knew. Oh well, live and learn.


232 posted on 05/26/2006 7:38:38 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (What's going on now, calling it a pathway to citizenship is not honest. It's amnesty.)
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To: upchuck
Methinks maybe Tony has gone over to the dark side.

He obviously is not a conservative.

Tony Snow "obviously is not a conservative." I cannot believe I'd ever read these words on FR.

What's wrong with this picture? Lu-lu-koo-koo-nu-nu?

I fear there are a huge bunch here who are so hotly anti-immigration, if not just out-and-out anti-Hispanic, that they have lost sight of the multiplicity of much larger and far more weighty issues that should actually be propelling the conservative cause, and woe be upon them for their tunnel-visioned ways, for they shall wreak socialistic tax-and-spend DemocRatic liberals upon the land, for all of their single-minded benightedness.

Damn them all to hell.

233 posted on 05/26/2006 7:38:49 PM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: varon

I like that!


234 posted on 05/26/2006 7:38:53 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: VU4G10

E Tu Tony, E Tu.


235 posted on 05/26/2006 7:39:38 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Now...we're talkin' - great post!


236 posted on 05/26/2006 7:39:53 PM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' leavies, add alligators.)
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To: JRochelle

In Iraq you get 17 warnings before you have to pay a price.


237 posted on 05/26/2006 7:42:27 PM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' leavies, add alligators.)
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To: middie

Tony knew this issue was out there when he took the job.

Maybe his radio show was tanking and he needed the work.


238 posted on 05/26/2006 7:46:07 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: King of Florida

I fear there are a huge bunch here who are so hotly anti-immigration, if not just out-and-out anti-Hispanic...



Sorry jack, it's NOT anti-immigrant, it's anti-illegal-alien. And it's not anti-Hispanic, these people could be Swedish for all I care, THEY ARE CRIMINALS.


239 posted on 05/26/2006 7:52:48 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (What's going on now, calling it a pathway to citizenship is not honest. It's amnesty.)
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To: trubluolyguy
Sorry, chief, I've read too many apoplectic diatribes here lately to buy your cover story. If Congress adjusted the immigration laws to up the quota for Mexican immigration (or up the quota for any Latin American country, for that matter) to 5 million a year or so, those people would be "legal," but something tells me you'd still have a beef.

How about this: all the Hispanic has to do is make it into the country, by whatever means, and he's eligible for a green card in a year. How's that for a law? Someone tell me what they think about that.

240 posted on 05/26/2006 8:01:52 PM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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