Evidence portrays Russia as failed state (WOMEN WANT OUT)

Japan Times ^ | May 24, 2006 | DAVID WALL

[uglybiker]

I dunno if the surrent crop of mods can take Full Frontal Arrogance!

Which reminds me. I've got a couple of well chilled AB's in the 'fridge...

[familyop]

That's where feminism goes. All kinds of feminism contributes to socialism, including divorce/cohabitation lobbies, domestic violence lobbies and amazonian propaganda. The Nazis contributed to feminist propaganda. So did Communist leaders in Russia and China.

Here's some evidence.

"Then it will be plain that the first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and that this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society" (Frederick Engels, "Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State").

Mao's Little Red Book on Women
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Mao/Mao-31-Women.html

Some of Lenin's words on women
http://www.marx.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/nov/06.htm

The following is from the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" (Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Fredrick Engels)
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

"The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women."

He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial."

“Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of the fair sex (plain ones included)” (Karl Marx Letter to Ludwig Kugelmann, MECW, Volume 43, p. 184, http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/68_12_12.htm)

[GSlob]

Well, the Baltic states and probably the Ukraine would be happy to get rid of the fifth columniacs. I see a win-win situation emerging.

[RckyRaCoCo]

Russian women.....

....very nice

[silverleaf]

Both Russia and China require that prospective adoptive parents submit dossiers including exhaustive home studies (performed by social workers licensed by the state of residence of the adopter), Potential adoptive parents also must submit to criminal background checks (FBI and state and local, including a review of their driving records). Russia also requires that prospective adoptive parents (American) be evaluated by a psychologist.

China severely restricts single parent adoptions. All adopters from China must sign a statement affirming that they are NOT homosexual.

Americans who are divorced must provide a study for the Russian judge as to why they do not have custody of their natural children, if they do not.

So certainly a crafty pedophile could (and at least one notorious one has) "gamed" his/her way through the system but it would not be a cakewalk. However, providing foster care in America, adopting from social welfare in America, or simply signing up for child sex tours abroad... is so much easier. That is where I would look for the pedophiles.

I think the author of this study really hasn't got a clue about American "pedophiles" adopting from Russia and China and just threw that comment out there. However, within Russia and throughout eastern Europe there are many (many)children in orphanages who are used for personal perversion by the orphanage staffs and others. Some (many) Americans have managed to adopt and save some of them.

[GSlob]

",,,to come back to the fatherland. Or is that motherland?"
It is MoFer-land. [MoFer=MF in "REMF"]

[GSlob]

"...to come back to the fatherland. Or is that motherland?"
It is MoFer-land. [MoFer=MF in "REMF"]

[Romanov]

If you visit Vladivostok you'll notice that it IS Chinese.

[Romanov]

"And now, 15 years gone, forces their young women to sell themselves any way they can to survive. "

When is the last time you were in Moscow? A good majority of the prostitutes now are from Ukraine, Moldova, or the provinces. The Chechens are usually their pimps. Still a horrible situation, but the numbers "Muscovites" engaged in prostitution has plummeted enough that prostitutes will advertise on the internet or in papers stating they are a "true" Moscow gal (so they can up their price).

What's really sad is if you talk to these girls (they hang out in bars frequented by Westerners) you'll find that a lot of them are very educated and if they had been born somewhere else they'd probably be doing quite well for themselves.

It's been my experience (and observation) that most Russian (and Ukrainian) men take their women for granted.

[heights]

Please Sir, may I have two?

[trubluolyguy]

lol, nice to see someome has a sense of humor.

[Romanov]

Those nukes are no good if the sites are manned by corrupt drunken officers and mentally and physically ill conscripts.

This statement in the article is the main illness they suffer from and affects all aspects of their life:

"So, Russia is a country where hundreds of thousands of women are desperate to get out at any price, large numbers of other women and orphans are sold abroad, where its army cannot staff itself except with drunken drug-taking smokers (those who survive to conscription age that is) and which is dependent on immigrants from countries that the people regard with contempt, and as enemies, just to survive. This is what Putin's State of the Nation message tells me. "

Russian women don't want to have children, especially boys, when they're fed to the military like slabs of meat when they turn 18. If they don't get their armed forces converted into a real professional army (and not the "experiment" [failed] contract basis) they'll collapse even further.

I'll repeat this until I'm blue in the face - Putin is NOT the all powerful autocrat that he is depicted in the Western press. He has no real control over the Army and, in my opinion, will not gain control over them until he fires his best friend (Sergej Ivanov) and a whole generation of generals.

Nobody in the US that understands how the world works would be cheering this horrible state of affairs in Russia - it affects us all. Nation-states are their most unpredictable when they are weak. We need a strong, vibrant, and confident Russia (for our own selfish reasons). A Russia that is sure of herself would NOT recognize HAMAS, fool around with the Iranians, and play footsies with the Chinese.

[shield]

I knew you weren't. I just thought that should be pointed out what's happening to some of these poor Eastern European Women from the old soviet union.

Former communism caused these countries to have very little prosperity which it will take yrs if ever to overcome and therefore today because of the poverty we've got lots and lots of corruption...so the sex trafficking is huge in this area...it's a multi-billion $ business.

[Jank]

The fire at Istanbul's Airport, couldn't happen to a better place. Women are sold, raped, and tortured, from Russia, to Turkey. These women are desparet, to feed their families. This is not funny....

[shield]

No it's not...it's HORRIBLE....

[AntiGuv]

I am not cheering the demise of Russia at all. In fact, I lived in Moscow for a while and finally left in mid-winter of 2000 in great part because I was becoming a typical depressed alcoholic expat. I decided I'd had all I could take on a Thursday, wrapped everything up, and flew out the next Friday.

[Romanov]

I wasn't trying to infer that you were cheering its demise! my apologies.

[AntiGuv]

No problem! If anything your post reminded me of how I have a bit of a denial tendency when it comes to Russia. I don't like the thought of Russia going down the tubes, and so I tend to look on the overly bright side, when if I reflect on it I know the outlook right now is rather grim..

I tend to be the same way with Western Europe for that matter. I imagine that they'll figure out a solution for their demographic crisis, short of becoming Islamic states, though right now it's altogether unclear what that solution might be.

[GladesGuru]

"I imagine that they'll figure out a solution for their demographic crisis, short of becoming Islamic states, though right now it's altogether unclear what that solution might be."

Think St. Barths Day massacre (France, where else?).

[tomatoealive]

[it's more about the economy than religion.]

Countries and cultures have withstood starvation and drought. What they do not withstand is the disruption which the Russian people were put through by the Soviets. So many killed, so many social structures destroyed.

If a population doesn’t have any social structures and customs by which to deal with each other with some bit of trust, it is hopeless. How can you engage in trade when you don’t trust each other? It will only end up with the person who has the most muscle getting everything his way.

While if you have a civilization, which is organized, and whose people are self controlled and decent, wonders can be achieved.