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Lay says he's 'shocked' at Enron verdict (Another shocked 'victim' of the Enron collapse)
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| 5/26/06
| Michael Graczyk - ap
Posted on 05/26/2006 10:34:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Enron founder Kenneth Lay, with his wife Linda, makes a statement as he leaves the courthouse after being found guilty of all counts in his fraud and conspiracy and bank fraud trials Thursday, May 25, 2006 in Houston. (AP Photo/Pat Sullivan)
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:35:20 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
To: NormsRevenge
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
Lay and Skilling took a perfectly good power company, sold off most of the power producing assets, spun off a dozen or so paper companies and assigned the main company debt to them, and sold stock based on the false profit statistics. Then he's surprised when he gets convicted of fraud.
Is that right?
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:40:08 AM PDT
by
wolfpat
(To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
To: NormsRevenge
Enabled by Clinton.
Jailed by Bush.
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:44:31 AM PDT
by
marron
To: marron
Enabled by Clinton.
Jailed by Bush.
That needs to be repeated over and over again!!
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:45:45 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
To: marron
That'll fit on a bumper sticker. ;-)
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:47:26 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
To: NormsRevenge
IIRC, much of the defense costs were paid for by directors E&O policies and other liability coverage..no longer the case after the conviction..so they'll have to decide if they each want to throw away several million on an appeal....to merely buy some more time...Since the appeals will most likely lose, at some point Skilling and Lay will havbe to decide if they want to leave something for their families..
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:50:30 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
To: wolfpat
These guys were acting like they were the government or something...
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:50:43 AM PDT
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: NormsRevenge
...Lay, whose friendship decades earlier with the family of former President George H.W. Bush earned him the nickname Kenny Boy from the future President George W. Bush...
almost missed the gratuitous bias
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posted on
05/26/2006 10:59:54 AM PDT
by
stylin19a
(There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't)
To: ken5050
decide if they each want to throw away several million on an appeal....to merely buy some more time...I rather imagine that they do, especially old-man Lay for whom time is now his most precious asset. Surely these creeps have millions in cash tucked away for a rainy day.
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:04:50 AM PDT
by
Veto!
(Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
To: wolfpat
It's amazing that Lay thinks he's innocent even after the verdict. Let me see if I understand this. Here he is the head of a huge corporation responsible for it's well-being. It goes belly up...and the feds find they were cooking the books...1000's lose their jobs along with retirement and benefits. Yet this man feels he's innocent.
During this trial all Lay did was play the blame game...and blamed everyone else. Playing the victim is so typical of what a true blue demwit does.
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:07:02 AM PDT
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
To: NormsRevenge
Lay is shocked but not stuned, apparently.
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:09:01 AM PDT
by
OB1kNOb
(This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
To: wolfpat
Lay and Skilling took a perfectly good power company, sold off most of the power producing assets, spun off a dozen or so paper companies and assigned the main company debt to them, and sold stock based on the false profit statistics. Then he's surprised when he gets convicted of fraud. I always thought the "there was no fraud" defense was a pretty dumb idea. Plus the reports indicate Kenny-boy did not do well on the stand. Instead of the old affable Ken, he was prickly and defensive.
My guess is Kenny is not really the nice guy he pretended to be. He might have talked himself into believing he really didn't do anything wrong - "master of the universe" types can have a very skewed view of the world.
If there was a chance for a plea bargain he should have taken it. He chose poorly.
To: NormsRevenge
Oh man, do you know what happens to pretty boys like Lay in jail?
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:17:47 AM PDT
by
durasell
(!)
To: NormsRevenge
"The collapse wiped out more than $60 billion in market value, almost $2.1 billion in pension plans and 5,600 jobs."
Where did it all go?
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:25:55 AM PDT
by
dakine
To: shield
I don't know which was the best of his blames ... the day traders who dissed the company, with whom he was livid, until it was pointed out that's what his son does for a living ... or the automatic signature machine--that is, his secretary or the "SODDI" - some other dude did it - who sneaked into his office and signed checks with it.
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:30:46 AM PDT
by
Rte66
To: Rte66
And what about the witnesses? Lay's team contends they were given special deals by the feds to lie on the witness stand about Lay.
The fact is Enron was cooking the books and Lay never knew anything whatsoever about it. **shaking my head**
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:39:33 AM PDT
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
To: dfwgator
Enabled by Clinton.
Jailed by Bush.
Trying to score political points on this case is a loser. If we try, we'll get hit with "Kenny Boy."
Lay was an equal-opportunity scumbag. He spread money around to any politician he thought would help him.
Better just to celebrate this as a victory for shareholders over the crooks who would lie to them.
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:40:03 AM PDT
by
highball
(Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
To: dakine
Where did it all go? Strictly speaking, it didn't "go" anywhere. It never existed in the first place, other than in the minds of the investors that pumped up the price of Enron stock. And, because they were given information that was untrue by the Enron, the top executives of that company are now facing prison.
To: Steely Tom
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posted on
05/26/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT
by
dakine
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