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Border Fight Divides G.O.P.
The New York Times ^ | May 26, 2006 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 05/26/2006 1:45:27 AM PDT by Penny

WASHINGTON, May 25 — The negotiations between the White House and Congress that will follow the Senate's passage on Thursday of an immigration bill could decide not just how the nation confronts illegal immigration but also what strain of conservatism the Republican Party carries into the midterm elections and beyond.

Will it be the compassionate brand Mr. Bush considers crucial to the party's future, in this case by signaling support for a provision in the Senate bill that would give most illegal immigrants an opportunity to become legal? Or will it be the more doctrinaire variety embraced by much of Mr. Bush's party in the House, one that shuns anything that smacks of amnesty for illegal immigrants and seeks to criminalize them further?

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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: mariabush
This bickering has got to stop if we are going to survive as a country.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Your desire to be all happy and skiping through the meadow with rainbows, is about as realistic.

Personally, I'm happy this is happening. These traitorous, egomaniacal politicians need a reminder that they work for us. I hope there is massive carnage on election day. The sight of these fat, pompous, imperialistic jerks cleaning out their desks would be wonderful.


22 posted on 05/26/2006 4:12:40 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: jk4hc4
"The country will survive but i have serious doubts about the Republican party as we know it."

BINGO



The 43rd Co-presidents of the USA

23 posted on 05/26/2006 4:14:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Penny

Chris Shayes, a man's man (LOL), is now saying he has changed his mind and is not for citizenship for the illegals.


25 posted on 05/26/2006 4:17:45 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Lancer_N3502A
This is were the conservatives seperate from the RINOs

You mean no matter where you stand on all other issues, if you support this Senate bill, you're a RINO?

Puh-leeze. Talk about who's splitting the GOP.

26 posted on 05/26/2006 4:21:46 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Penny

Emailing and calling my congressman AGAIN to tell him not to go along with the Senates Version of "Immigration Reform" aka "Surrender".

Looks like the House is out last line of defense on this.


27 posted on 05/26/2006 4:21:57 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: DustyMoment
There seems to be more forces at work that just the left in this dividing and conquering quest. It scares me to death.
28 posted on 05/26/2006 4:22:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: jk4hc4
Actually, the inbreeding is to the west (Ark.) and further east in Tenn. The rest applies to Memphis.
29 posted on 05/26/2006 4:26:06 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Penny

The immigration issue is dividing the Dem's even more. the party against many of its memebrs and 72% of the american people


30 posted on 05/26/2006 4:29:15 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: Godebert

"This bickering has got to stop if we are going to survive as a country."

Illegal immigration has to stop if we are going to survive as a country.

The bickering must continue at an unabated level....this is no time for civility. I have heard that we are not talking about just 11 million illegal aliens, but closer to 33 million when they are allowed to have their families come and join them. In 1986 1 million turned into 3 million. Never again!


31 posted on 05/26/2006 4:38:29 AM PDT by ed1340 (Cultural Suicide)
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To: Penny
It's always good to remind one's self that,

"Republican is not synonymous with Conservative" .

32 posted on 05/26/2006 4:38:51 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: Penny

Email and call your congressman.

http://www.house.gov/writerep/


33 posted on 05/26/2006 4:40:33 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: mariabush

Good morning maria. Having been to Memphis many times, I can agree with your statement wholeheartedly!

LLS


34 posted on 05/26/2006 4:52:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

If all the Republicans who voted against the Democrat/RINO bill would decide to run as members of a new American Conservative Party, they could be elected as such. Conservatives would be energized and ready to work hard to have their views represented instead of being ignored by the RINOs who stabbed the GOP and the USA in the back yesterday.


35 posted on 05/26/2006 4:57:04 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: bilhosty

It is very instructive that every Democrat Senator who is in a contested fight for re-election voted AGAINST the Amnesty Bill yesterday. Say what you will about the Dems, they know what their constituents are thinking and will do or say anything to get them past the next election. Obviously, RINOs aren't that smart. Every one of them needs to be replaced with a conservative, and we should dedicate our time and treasure to finding and financing outstanding conservative opponents to challenge them in their next PRIMARY election. That's where you can get rid of these traitors.


36 posted on 05/26/2006 5:02:25 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Working to replace the RINO's is the most sensible plan to take our country back, instead of staying home or voting third party to teach the politico's a lesson.
37 posted on 05/26/2006 5:07:51 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush
This is all just another example of the people in government having profoundly different interests than the people who put them there.
More and more there are 2 groups in this country, those who live off the government authorized redistribution of wealth, and those who earn the wealth to be redistrubuted. Why would we be naive enough to believe that they have any interest at hear but their own?

We have to plan out some way to remove them all from the seat of power, and re-establish a system where individual freedom is a priority. We have to figure out how to dismantle a welfare state while there are still some Americans who remember that this isn't what government is for.

Hopefully it will turn out to be something short of the way we got rid of the last tyrannical government.

38 posted on 05/26/2006 5:19:54 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Lancer_N3502A
"This is were the conservatives separate from the RINOs"

And, on this issue, George Bush is definitely a RINO.
39 posted on 05/26/2006 5:38:33 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: mariabush
"Working to replace the RINO's is the most sensible plan to take our country back, instead of staying home or voting third party to teach the politico's a lesson."

This makes a lot of sense, but often electing a RINO is worse than electing a Democrat.
40 posted on 05/26/2006 5:41:17 AM PDT by BW2221
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