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"It is clear the people who drafted this legislation had an agenda and the agenda was not to meet the expectations of the American people. The agenda was to create a facade and appearance of enforcement, an appearance of toughness in some instances. When you get into the meat of the provisions and get into the bill and study it, tucked away here and there are laws that eviscerate and eliminate the real effectiveness of those provisions. It was carefully done and deliberately done. This is a bill that should not become law. It is a bill that will come back to be an embarrassment to our Members who have supported it.
--- Senator Jeff Sessions

The 22 Republicans Senators who voted for the Senate immigration reform bill, S.2611.

**** Bennett Brownback Chafee Coleman Collins Craig DeWine Domenici Frist Graham Gregg Lugar Martinez McCain McConnell Murkowski Smith Snowe Specter Stevens Voinovich Warner ****

1 posted on 05/25/2006 5:00:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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It has become clearly apparent that now is the time for all FReeper and patriotic Americans to launch a full-scale assault on the RINO'S that voted in favor of selling out our Constitution, Bill of Rights, our Freedom. They have literally crapped on the graves and the memories of those brave Americans that made the ultimate sacrifice in our quest for our great nation.

The time has come to take our fight to the streets with major peaceful protests. Take the day off work, make small sacrifices now or large ones later. If we don't vote every one of these bastards out of office we will become a third world nation with a third world economy riddled with even greater corruption than exists today.
38 posted on 05/25/2006 5:57:16 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: devolve; ntnychik

Read it and weep!


40 posted on 05/25/2006 6:02:50 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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Bush does not represent the heart and sould of a Conservative Republican Party when he puts in with that ultra liberal crowd who voted for this Mexican power grab of our sovereign nation. Bill Frist was an wavering doddering sickening enabler. Jeff Sessions represents the heart and soul of the what a Conservative Republican Party should be. Sessions stepped up and pointed out again and again why this bill is a sellout of our sovereignity. Sessions took a calm approach and never ever demagogued a issue which was made for demagoguery. His temperament is the opposite of the insane McCain. Sessions is the leader of the Conservative Republican Party. When Bush sides with Teddy Kennedy, Arlen Specter, and has Turban Durbin praising him, then Bush has abdicated any claim as being a conservative leader. And no one can claim that Bush is taking a principled stand on this issue when you go down the list of yes votes in the Senate the last thing that comes to ones mind is principled.


50 posted on 05/25/2006 6:40:35 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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..Dana Rohrabacher, in violation of House rules I believe, railed against the Senate and this bill in a Special Orders speech last night on C-Span.

There are a few voices sounding the warning against this bill.

Even Lindsey Graham backpedaled on O'Reilly--conceding that the final product out of Conference must be stronger than the Senate version.

..interesting days ahead...

80 posted on 05/25/2006 7:34:33 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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Just a whole lot angry over the fiasco today so please forgive my bad grammar.

Over the last couple of weeks, I have repeatedly posted concerns that this bill is worse than any legislation since Reconstruction days.

The bill S2611 adversely affects current citizens more than just in the area of immigration and giving amnesty for felons and employers who violated several laws and stole citizen’s identifications.

Once this bill is thoroughly examined and the full extent of its impact on American citizens is known, there will be hell to pay.

S2611 was used by Ted Kennedy and the Open Borders, Hate America First Crowd to attach legislation that changes many laws currently on the books.

Especially, laws dealing with wages and the work place environment.

This bill as written, will guarantee more government intervention into your personal lives.

If one carefully examines this bill, you will see that the strong border enforcement we thought we were getting as a trade off is not there.

Now, I am hearing some Senators say it will take tens of thousands of new government workers just to handle this debacle.

That the cost to process all of these amnesty citizens will be in the tens of billions of dollars.

Where will these new workers come from since we already have full employment?

Oh, I know, we can OUTSOURCE the work to DUBAI or INDIA.

Yes folks the Illegal Aliens may not qualify to pay taxes but they will be able to file for the earned income, as much as $4,500 dollars, which then can be used to pay the paltry fine of $2,000 dollars.

We are being socked for 40 plus more billion in government refund out lay give a ways in just the earned income tax credit for low wage earners.

Most however will qualify for welfare, food stamps, low income housing, Medicare, education and any other give away program that you as a current working citizen can not get.

Yep, these people are earning their citizenship. Sarc

Kennedy says well these people will be paying taxes but most of the Illegal Aliens will not qualify for even the minimum tax.

Then to top it all off, the Social security is supposed to be in trouble by the account of every Senator and politician in Washington D.C.

That did not stop Murdering Ted and the gang of sellouts from tacking on a possible 60 to 100 million more potential Social Security recipients.

People 50 years and older should be outraged over just this theft alone, much less all the other adverse shenanigans that is wrong with this bill.

I listened to Lindsay Graham try to explain away his sell out of America’s majority and his explanation smacks of an arrogant elitist.

Yes, I am angry and now must fix a Gin and Tonic to settle the old nerves.
81 posted on 05/25/2006 7:36:27 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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I wonder how many senators even know what is in the bill.


83 posted on 05/25/2006 7:38:26 PM PDT by TheLion
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So the American people are suspicious and they are dubious and they are watching us carefully, and they should. Let me tell you some of the things that are in the legislation that indicate a lack of respect for the American people...

Thank you, there are many...

85 posted on 05/25/2006 7:39:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Real trolls are brief, insulting, and at the top of threads.)
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**** Bennett Brownback Chafee Coleman Collins Craig DeWine Domenici Frist Graham Gregg Lugar Martinez McCain McConnell Murkowski Smith Snowe Specter Stevens Voinovich Warner ****

The usual suspects.

88 posted on 05/25/2006 7:44:13 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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We need to know the names of the top companies that lobbied for this SHAFTA bill and boycott their A$$ into the ground!
94 posted on 05/25/2006 7:51:25 PM PDT by Boiling point (When the GOP asks for donations, send them PESOs)
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"**** Bennett Brownback Chafee Coleman Collins Craig DeWine Domenici Frist Graham Gregg Lugar Martinez McCain McConnell Murkowski Smith Snowe Specter Stevens Voinovich Warner ****"

I'll be voting against Senator Warner here in VA, and will encourage others to do so as well. He isn't up until '08. Plenty of time for the conservatives to find another George Allen to represent us.

102 posted on 05/25/2006 8:13:07 PM PDT by KoRn
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The 22 Republicans Senators who voted for the Senate immigration reform bill, S.2611.

You mean the 22 Republican Senators from the Great State of Mexico. Every other state gets two. But Mexico gets 62.

105 posted on 05/25/2006 8:14:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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From my Congressman.

Even worse, shortly before passage of the bill, the Senate approved an 80 page manager’s amendment, that is so long those of us in the House (and possibly some in the Senate) have not yet been able to take a look at everything in it.

110 posted on 05/25/2006 8:18:23 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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So when this is all over will GWB be named as the Governor of the New Mexican Territory of the Estados Unitos de America? Or will President Fox appoint one of these traitorous senators?
117 posted on 05/25/2006 8:24:11 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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Sad to see Warner on that list! I thought he was more intelligent and honest than that!


119 posted on 05/25/2006 8:27:37 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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I think the best thing would to be pass NO immigration bill especially the stark diffrences between the House & Senate. We would probably get the worst from both. Free pass to illegals with the restrictions on civil rights on ordinary Americans such as the Driver License Agreement (DLA) that was left out of the Real ID Act (a bad law in itself concerning DL's). The DLA is in the House version - tri-national driver database with Canada & Mexico.
122 posted on 05/25/2006 8:33:39 PM PDT by CORedneck
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From The Heritage Foundation:

A loophole for terrorists
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1092.cfm

“A previously unnoticed provision in [the Senate] legislation would disarm America’s state and local police in the war against terrorism,” writes former counsel to the Attorney General Kris Kobach in a new Heritage paper.

Several of the hijackers involved in the September 11th terrorist attacks were in violation of immigration law by overstaying tourist visas. Even when they were briefly detained for violations like speeding, police did not probe their status and did not discover that they were in breach. Had they been arrested, the murders in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania may have been avoided.

After the terrorist attacks, it became clear that if future attacks are to be stopped, law enforcement must do more to arrest and deport those who are in breach of their visas. State and local police stepped up their efforts, doubling the number of arrested illegal aliens by 2005.

But the Senate bill would undo all of this, Kobach reports. If the bill becomes law, state and local police would not be able to arrest anyone for civil violations, which includes visa overstays. “Afraid of arresting the wrong type of illegal alien—and getting sued as a result—many police departments will stop helping the federal government altogether,” they explain.

Congress must remember that immigration and border security reform is fundamentally about national security."


132 posted on 05/25/2006 9:12:41 PM PDT by Portrait of a Lady
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Mexico owns us now and they know it. Wait until all of you see the true attitude of Mexicans when they feel they're dominant. It is unbelievably hardcore and cruel. So many people here in the U.S. do not have a clue.


137 posted on 05/25/2006 9:31:19 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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141 posted on 05/25/2006 9:43:06 PM PDT by heights
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A MINORITY of Republicans in the Senate helped the Democrats pass this bill.

When a MAJORITY of our party, the party in control of the Senate, is against this - and it passes anyway - I truly fear for our society and our country.

As someone posted over on a Yahoo discussion thread:


If ever there was time for revolution

That time is now.

These traitors are destroying America, and defying our Law and Democracy.

The majority of Americans wants our borders secured, and illegals deported!

CIS Poll

If this bill cannot be stopped, it is seriously time for revolution to save our Nation, our Democracy, and our Rule of Law.

REF: Yahoo Discussion Thread on Senate Bill


That discussion thread on Yahoo is burning up the boards. Unlike our more self-selected audience here at Free Republic, it reaches a more general audience. If the tone (and plurality) of the responses there are a true indicator of how American's feel on this issue, then the Senate bill better not make it into law as is.

143 posted on 05/25/2006 10:05:11 PM PDT by subbob (Give Them What they "Deserve")
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Thank God some one had the sense to find out what was in the legislation, rather than just voting on it.

What a piece of trash! Selling us out and for what?

I want to know why they are doing this to us?


148 posted on 05/25/2006 10:53:01 PM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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