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Chimp poop 'reveals AIDS' origins'
The Australian ^ | 5/25/06 | staff

Posted on 05/25/2006 1:30:25 PM PDT by pissant

RESEARCHERS who picked up and analysed wild chimp droppings said today they had shown how the AIDS virus originated in wild apes in Cameroon and then spread in humans across Africa and eventually the world. Their study, published in the journal Science, supports other studies that suggest people somehow caught the deadly human immunodeficiency virus from chimpanzees, perhaps by killing and eating them.

"It says that the chimpanzee group that gave rise to HIV ... this chimp community resides in Cameroon," said Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama, who led the study.

"But that doesn't mean the epidemic originated there because it didn't," said Ms Hahn, who has been studying the genetic origin of HIV for years.

"We actually know where the epidemic took off. The epidemic took off in Kinshasa, in Brazzaville."

Kinshasa is in the Democratic Republic of Congo, formerly Zaire, and faces Brazzaville, in Congo, across the Congo River.

Studies have traced HIV to a man who gave a blood sample in 1959 in Kinshasa, then called Leopoldville. Later analysis found the AIDS virus.

In people, HIV leads to AIDS but chimps have a version called simian immune deficiency virus that causes them no harm.

Humans are the only animals naturally susceptible to HIV.

AIDS was only identified 25 years ago. The virus now infects 40 million people around the world and has killed 25 million. Spread via blood, sexual contact and from mother to child during birth or breast-feeding, HIV has no cure and there is no vaccine, although drug cocktails can help control it.

And like so many new infections, AIDS appears to have been passed to humans from animals they slaughtered.

SIV has been found in captive chimps but Ms Hahn wanted to show it could be found in the wild, too.

Her international team got the cooperation of the government in Cameroon and they hired skilled trackers.

"The chimps in that area are hunted. It's certainly impossible to see them. It is hard to track them and find these materials," she said.

But the trackers managed to collect 599 samples of droppings. Ms Hahn's lab found DNA, identified each individual chimp and then found evidence of the virus.

"We went to 10 field sites and we found evidence of infection in five. We were able to identify a total of 16 infected chimps and we were able to get viral sequences from all of them," Ms Hahn said.

Up to 35 per cent of the apes in some communities were infected. Not only that, they could find different varieties, called clades, of the virus.

"We found some of the clades were really, really very closely related to the human virus and others were not," she said.

Chimps separated by a river were infected with different clades, Ms Hahn said.

And a river may have carried the virus into the human population.

"So how do you get from southern Cameroon to the Democratic Republic of Congo?" Ms Hahn said.

"Some human must have done so. There is a river that goes from that southeastern corner of Cameroon down to the Congo river."

Ivory and hardwood traders used the Sangha River in the 1930s, when the original human-to-human transmission is believed to have happened. Ms Hahn's study suggests the virus passed from chimpanzees to people more than once.

"We don't really know how these transmissions occurred," Ms Hahn said.

"We know that you don't get it from petting a chimp, or from a toilet seat, just like you can't get HIV from a toilet seat. It requires exposure to infected blood and infected body fluids. So if you get bitten by an angry chimp while you are hunting it, that could do it."

Ms Hahn's study only applies the HIV group M, which is the main strain of the virus responsible for the AIDS pandemic.

"It is quite possible that still other (chimpanzee SIV) lineages exist that could pose risks for human infection and prove problematic for HIV diagnostics and vaccines," her team wrote.


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To: pissant

It's the one thing I most disliked about him, other than the Iran-contra fraccas.


21 posted on 05/25/2006 1:37:55 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: pissant

"Humans are the only animals naturally susceptible to HIV."

Sounds like an argument for PETA.


22 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:30 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: pissant
And a river may have carried the virus into the human population.

Suuuuuuuuuurrrrre it was ...

That or somebody was really lonely ... and that chimp was sooooo cute ...

eeewwwww.

23 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:33 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Gordongekko909

LOL


24 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:41 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

"Chimp poop 'reveals AIDS' origins'"




Daaang... THAT'S why they were throwing it at us.
They were trying to tell us.
lol


25 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:46 PM PDT by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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Get aids. Get the t-shirt.

26 posted on 05/25/2006 1:38:49 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush.)
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To: pissant
And like so many new infections, AIDS appears to have been passed to humans from animals they slaughtered.

Or sodomized.

27 posted on 05/25/2006 1:39:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: pissant
Studies have traced HIV to a man who gave a blood sample in 1959 in Kinshasa, then called Leopoldville. Later analysis found the AIDS virus.

I had never heard this before. I had always heard that AIDs started in the 70s (as a CIA experiment to kill black people per one of my more paranoid friends). So it has existed well before the 60s.
28 posted on 05/25/2006 1:39:35 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pissant

Al Gore's next cause - monkey poop.


29 posted on 05/25/2006 1:39:37 PM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: pissant
Reminds me of the scene from (Indiana Jones) Temple of Doom, where they served Chilled Monkey Brains for desert. Yum...
30 posted on 05/25/2006 1:40:27 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: pissant
RESEARCHERS who picked up and analysed wild chimp droppings...

DANG! I finally found a job worse than mine! I love my job....I love my job.....

31 posted on 05/25/2006 1:40:27 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: AmericanRepublican
Allow me to continue the next bit of news with a "monkey flying out of my ass" routine...

You could get AIDS from that...

32 posted on 05/25/2006 1:40:58 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: miliantnutcase

Beer goggles work in Cameroon apparently. LOL


33 posted on 05/25/2006 1:41:05 PM PDT by pissant
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To: tumblindice



"I'm studying primate scatology, "

Whew, when I first read this I read scatology as Scientology.

My bad.


34 posted on 05/25/2006 1:41:15 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: pissant
"...perhaps by killing and eating them..."

I dont think theres any "perhaps" about it. You watch those documentaries about the trade in "bush meat" up and down the Congo river, and the problem seems pretty obvious.

35 posted on 05/25/2006 1:41:20 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: evets
Get aids. Get the t-shirt.

LOL! Puts a whole new light on the old: "Been there, done that, got the T-shirt"..............

36 posted on 05/25/2006 1:41:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: brytlea

That's why they have those little paper toilet seat covers. ;o)


37 posted on 05/25/2006 1:41:46 PM PDT by pissant
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To: CygnusXI

ROTFLMAO!! You broke the code!


38 posted on 05/25/2006 1:42:09 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: pissant

LOL
susie


39 posted on 05/25/2006 1:42:21 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

Monkey is good eatin after all.


40 posted on 05/25/2006 1:42:22 PM PDT by pissant
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