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Estonia frowns on Baltic pipeline
Radio Polonia ^ | 25.05.2006 | Michal Zajac

Posted on 05/25/2006 11:04:17 AM PDT by lizol

Estonia frowns on Baltic pipeline

The German-Russian deal struck last autumn to build a pipeline under the Baltic Sea to pump natural gas from Russia continues to raise concerns in the Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine. These countries’ leaders have said they felt uneasy about, what they felt was, deals being made behind their back on an issue as vital as energy security.

This report by Michal Zajac in Tallinn.

Even though most of the information concerning the manner in which the gas pipeline will be constructed remains secret, environmentalists in the Baltic states still say that threats to the environment do exist. After all, the gas pipeline is to be laid on the bottom of the Baltic Sea, there may be a temptation to add more pipelines to transport chemicals or crude oil. According to Estonian environmental protection expert Marek Strandberg no matter how advanced technologies are applied, the life of the Baltic Sea along the pipe line will feel their consequences.

Estonia, just like the remaining Baltic states, is opposed to the German-Russian plans. The four billion euro project to construct a 1,200-km gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea is to be completed by 2010. The pipeline is to skirt Estonia, so Tallinn doesn’t feel it will lose any potential transit fees, but it’s still voicing its reluctance to the venture.

But when it comes to the Baltic states, there is one overriding concern. Estonians still feel that Russia is casting a long shadow over their newly independent country. Director of the Estonian Foreign Policy Institute Andres Kasekamp argues that Estonia’s concerns over the German-Russian pipeline have several dimensions. The Baltic simply have painful memories of Soviet occupation and wish to be distanced from any dependence on Moscow.

But Germany and Russia stand by the deal signed by Gerhard Schroeder and Valdimir Putin in Berlin on September 8 last year. The pipeline’s construction is likely to go ahead next year. Estonia is aware that opposing the plans can bring about no results. That’s why Prime Minister Andrus Ansip is determined to focus on diversifying energy sources.

‘We are very much interested in having our energy system connected to the Scandinavian and Polish ones. To achieve this goal Estonia and Poland will ask for funds from the European Union.’

At present the European Union’s Green Paper on a European Strategy for Sustainable, Competitive and Secure Energy is open to public consultation. On the basis of responses given, the European Commission will develop more precise ideas on Europe’s common energy issues.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balticpipeline; baltics; balticstates; energy; estonia; europe; gas; gasputin; poland; russia
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1 posted on 05/25/2006 11:04:18 AM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 05/25/2006 11:10:05 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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The German-Russian deal struck last autumn to build a pipeline under the Baltic Sea to pump natural gas from Russia continues to raise concerns in the Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine.

That's interesting considering as only ONE of those states actually borders the black sea.

The sort of folk who come out against this would tell America and Canada they can't have the St Lawrence Seaway
3 posted on 05/25/2006 11:11:19 AM PDT by x5452
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To: x5452

You may wish to brush-up on those analogy skills.


4 posted on 05/25/2006 11:15:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: x5452

What "black sea"???


5 posted on 05/25/2006 11:18:45 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: x5452
Perhaps you should take remedial reading and learn that black and Baltic are not interchangeable. After that, brush up on geography. After that, learn to control your urge to post on matters in which you lack sufficient comprehension.
6 posted on 05/25/2006 11:47:51 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon
And I suppose Ukraine is on the Baltic sea?
7 posted on 05/25/2006 11:58:33 AM PDT by x5452
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OK, I'll do it for you:

Remember:

Black Sea


Baltic Sea.

8 posted on 05/25/2006 11:58:39 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

You see Liz, I actually presumed the Ukrainians had a valid gripe for once, turns out as usuall they don't.


9 posted on 05/25/2006 12:00:03 PM PDT by x5452
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To: x5452
Once again, in case you didn't get it (which is very probable);

Black Sea


Baltic Sea.


The Baltic Sea, is the Baltic Sea, it's not the Black Sea. You know, those are 2 different seas.
10 posted on 05/25/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

Once again you ignore the point that countries not on the sea in question have zero business discussing the matter.


11 posted on 05/25/2006 12:01:29 PM PDT by x5452
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To: varon

Recently he claimed that Lviv still belongs to Poland and even lectured myself how to write the city name correctly. I used Ukrainian version like above, he claimed that only Russian version “Lvov” is correct. :) He is unable to provide some valuable input to our discussions, well Russophilia is not enough.


12 posted on 05/25/2006 12:01:32 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Actually I claimed it may as well be for the way the lick Polish boots.


13 posted on 05/25/2006 12:02:32 PM PDT by x5452
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To: lizol

You know it's easy to forget which one considering how many Russia borders. I suppose when you only border ONE (as the 3 states in question do) it gives them such a sense of inadequacy they form little alliances of single-sea-bordering nations, even when they don't border the same sea.


14 posted on 05/25/2006 12:07:24 PM PDT by x5452
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To: x5452
At first I thaught, that you couldn't be so ... well .. naive.

But the "sea problem" showed me I was probably wrong.

Take a look at this map, and if you say, that Ukraine has to reasons to be worried about the Baltic pipeline, then .. well ... what can I say.


15 posted on 05/25/2006 12:09:41 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: x5452

Sure, sure.

Remember - Baltic - Black - Baltic - Black...

Keep repeating.


16 posted on 05/25/2006 12:11:25 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: x5452
"You know it's easy to forget which one considering how many Russia borders."

Russia strong !!!
17 posted on 05/25/2006 12:16:09 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: lizol

One has to wonder why the environmentalists aren't screaming madly about a gas pipeline in the Baltic, that could lead to an oil pipeline?


18 posted on 05/25/2006 12:33:38 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: lizol

No they don't, they have a pipeline of their own.

And the only reason gas wouldn't be flowing through it is if they don't pay their bill.

Unless they have some preoccupation with failing to pay their debts (oh wait this is Ukraine, the international version of the aquaitance always in need of borrowing something but never interested in paying it back) they have nothing to worry about. They are in NO WAY able to administrate over what foreign nations do with their natural resources.

Russia could decide tommorow that gas is too precious and they don't want to sell ANY of this precious national resource and there is NOTHING EUROPE COULD SAY ABOUT IT.

That is soveriegnty, Either you beleive it, or you subscribe to marxism or globalism which asserts that it's okay for some countries to strong arm others over what they do with their own natural resources.


19 posted on 05/25/2006 12:44:37 PM PDT by x5452
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To: Grzegorz 246

1/9th the world's surface.

Make's your little Polish self long for the days of False Dmitry doesn't it...

Ya'll coulda been a contender.


20 posted on 05/25/2006 12:45:50 PM PDT by x5452
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