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Searching the Congressman's Office
New York Times ^ | 5/25/06 | Editors

Posted on 05/25/2006 9:59:41 AM PDT by mafree

The court-authorized search of the Congressional office of Representative William Jefferson by federal agents was as unprecedented in the 217-year history of Congress as it was alarming to lawmakers of both parties. Critics instantly suggested that Congressman Jefferson, the Louisiana Democrat suspected of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes, should have been spared the raid under some broad interpretation of the Constitution's separation of executive and legislative powers. Fuming lawmakers claim that the Constitution's Speech and Debate Clause — which protects a lawmaker from politically motivated criminal harassment in the course of official business — should extend to making Mr. Jefferson's office inviolable. This would be a stretch, considering the range of criminal activity theoretically possible in Congressional offices and the government's obligation to pursue and prosecute... (Excerpt)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; congress; crooks; doj; jefferson; probe; throwthebumsout; williamjefferson
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Hmmm...NY Slimes has it right this time?
1 posted on 05/25/2006 9:59:42 AM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree

The Washington Post isn't buying the "separation of powers" argument either.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052402434.html


2 posted on 05/25/2006 10:06:27 AM PDT by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig

Will wonders ever cease?


3 posted on 05/25/2006 10:06:56 AM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree

Even a blind sow can find an acorn once in awhile.


4 posted on 05/25/2006 10:07:41 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: mafree
I was just listening to Rush when a caller posed the question:

If Congress feels it is exempt from the judiciaries issuance of a warrant, why should a member of the executive branch not be exempt from answering a subpoena issued by the legislative branch?

5 posted on 05/25/2006 10:08:51 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("I don't think Pat Kennedy is crazy, he's just a drunk" -- G. Gordon Liddy (5-10-06))
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To: mafree
Well this is one controversy I don't mind being played out on the pages of the MSM right on up to election day. Good work, Denny.

Your vigorous protest is without merit but you just go right on ahead and swing for the fence on this one. Would just love to see the Dems throw Jefferson under the bus to get it off the front page.

6 posted on 05/25/2006 10:11:59 AM PDT by paddles
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To: mafree
Short of that, however, Congressional leaders — who have been all too lackadaisical in policing corruption on their own — would be wise to work out some ground rules with the Justice Department.

That's one of the problems. The subpeona was presented months ago but Jefferson and the rest of Congress refused to comply with it.

Fuming lawmakers claim that the Constitution's Speech and Debate Clause — which protects a lawmaker from politically motivated criminal harassment in the course of official business

So bribery is part of Congress's official business? I wish I could be shocked by that.

US Constitution, Article I, Secion 6:

They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.

I would love to see the FBI give the finger to Congress by arresting Jefferson for a felony on the House floor, cuffing him, frisking him and perp walking him out live on C-Span. Try to let Congress say to the public "Felony doesn't mean felony."

7 posted on 05/25/2006 10:12:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Michael.SF.

My understanding was he DID NOT RESPOND TO REQESTS, so what can you do. Now think about it, 90K in $100 bills in a freezer? I know passbook savings rates are down, BUT.


8 posted on 05/25/2006 10:12:36 AM PDT by awb2121
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To: mafree
The House Republican majority leader, John Boehner, denounced the search as an "invasion" by the executive branch that might very well have to be protested to the Supreme Court.

*Invasion*? When criminal activity is suspected and a duly-authorized warrant was issued? The GOP is coming close to telling the citizenry that their TAXPAYER-PROVIDED PUBLIC SPACE is off-limits to search by law enforcement when crime is suspected of being committed, thereby creating a fabulous hide-out for those who happen to have the ability to obtain the seat.

This "breach of separation of powers" argument didn't work when Clinton tried to turn the Secret Service into his own private hush-squad and it won't work here, either. I as a citizen of this country have every right to know what goes on in the public space I provide to these people to use, short of National Security issues. Just what are you hiding, Mssrs. Boehner, Frist, Hastert, etal??

9 posted on 05/25/2006 10:15:37 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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Can't believe it, but I absolutely agree with the NYT.
The Congress is always yammering that Justice isn't independent enough to investigate the Executive Branch.
Now, Congress would have preferred to have had the Capitol Police do the search instead of the FBI. The average criminal doesn't get to decide which cops search his place.
It really makes Hastert and Boehner look very bad. I wrote to my own Congressman plus both of them this morning. This is just very poor politics. It makes them look corrupt and totally out of touch with reality.


10 posted on 05/25/2006 10:17:56 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: mafree

Like a stopped clock, the NY Times editors can occasionally be right about something - you just have to wait awhile for it to happen, and then the moment passes.


11 posted on 05/25/2006 10:18:28 AM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante

$10 says Congressman Jefferson is reelected this fall.


12 posted on 05/25/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: mafree
...the more stuff you disturb in a dirty house the more roaches you'll see. Their gonna run out of handcuffs. LOL...the use of cardboard boxes at the congressional office building is now doubling as we type.


Doogle
13 posted on 05/25/2006 10:24:40 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: mafree
I'm comfortable having the NYTimes disagree with me on the Constitution- as usaul!

And notice how they turn an editorial on Democrat Jefferson's criminality into a smear on Republicans LOL!

14 posted on 05/25/2006 10:25:23 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Michael.SF.
If Congress feels it is exempt from the judiciaries issuance of a warrant, why should a member of the executive branch not be exempt from answering a subpoena issued by the legislative branch?

Exactly so -- there were a good many of us during the Monica-scandal who were arguing that we weren't fixated on Clinton's *private* life at all, but the fact that he performed his acts with Monica in taxpayer-funded, public space, the Oval Office is public. (Leave off, as I just posted, anything to do with National Security). His whining about "Even presidents have private lives" fell on deaf ears, since he did not take her up to the Private Quarters, nor off to a private hotel, her private apartment, but decided to do it in public space. There can be no argument to allow for an MOC's PUBLIC office to be off-limits to valid examination when criminal activity is suspected.

15 posted on 05/25/2006 10:26:14 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That's a sucker bet....
NEVER underestimate the ignorance and racism of the typical Democrat "plantation slave"....

Semper Fi


16 posted on 05/25/2006 10:28:01 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Hmmm...NY Slimes has it right this time?

LOL Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

17 posted on 05/25/2006 10:36:18 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Mine just blinks 00:00 ... 00:00 ...

18 posted on 05/25/2006 10:47:36 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: mafree

Again I keep saying that this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" is comprised of both factions. Totally bought & paid for by the elites that are willing to destroy the middle class at a drop of the hat. Hastert has shown again who & what he is. I just hope that talk radio stays all over these fools exsposing them continually. Now is the time for us to robustly voice our opinions. Let's show then that they work for us & not these puke elites.


19 posted on 05/25/2006 10:52:20 AM PDT by Digger
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To: mafree

How quickly those in Congress forget the mantra "No one is above the law"


20 posted on 05/25/2006 10:52:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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