[Antoninus]

But if those two asinine questions were not your doing, I withdraw the comment.

The questions were only asinine because you didn't want to answer them lest you reveal your true opinion on the matter. It's ok, though. I understand. It's important for a troll to keep his head down.

But if I did, I would certainly not toss out 95% of the studies without ever looking at them, simply because they ran contrary to what your ping list told you to think.

Can you provide links for me to all the studies making up that 95%? And while you're at it, go subscribe to a bunch of APA journals for me, photocopy the relevant articles and fax them over to me, will you?

Nah, not really. I tend to lump all extremists together, left or right. Some of them deserve each other.

Ah, so someone who thinks that sexual relations within marriage between one man and one woman is normal, lifegiving, healthy and good but that homosexual behavior is grotesque and abhorrent, is an extremist? If that makes me an extremist, then guilty as charged.

Since your talking points tell you its simply a choice and not anything physical, why wouldn't psychology play a role?

I am critical of psychology as a science on the whole. It's not really a science at all. That's not to say that psychological problems don't exist. Or that psychology, as profession, doesn't have a role to play in helping people with mental illness.

My point is that psychological science, while reasonably good at identifying root causes of many problems, has done an amazingly poor job addressing and curing them. In the case of those with same-sex attraction disorder, they have simply been abandoned by the psychological community, patted on the head, and told to sodomize each other to their hearts' content. It's perfectly fine. Basic common sense should tell you that's not a great strategy for helping people.

So, in other words, if a medical doctor made a statement about the physiology of homosexuals you would consider those opinions?

"Homosexual" physiology is the same as any other human physiology--at least before the years of misuse and abuse. Any medical doctor who said otherwise is a crank.

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The questions were only asinine because you didn't want to answer them lest you reveal your true opinion on the matter. It's ok, though. I understand. It's important for a troll to keep his head down.

I'm sure with your background, you understand the concept of the false dichotomy. I gave your questions far more time than they deserved.

Can you provide links for me to all the studies making up that 95%? And while you're at it, go subscribe to a bunch of APA journals for me, photocopy the relevant articles and fax them over to me, will you?

Well faxes seem so backward. If you wish, and your thought police leader gives you permission, I will be happy to post a number of links, leaving out the APA addressing the issue of "it's only a choice". You let me know.

Ah, so someone who thinks that sexual relations within marriage between one man and one woman is normal, lifegiving, healthy and good but that homosexual behavior is grotesque and abhorrent, is an extremist? If that makes me an extremist, then guilty as charged.

Not at all. In fact I respect your right to believe whatever you want. An extremist is one who wants to prevent all other ideas but his own from entering the debate. While that definition doesn't fit you, because you have at least permitted the debate to go forward(even if you want to keep changing the rules), it does fit others here. The first sign of an extremist, or radical if you will, is a person who can not debate an issue and therefore attempts to stifle those who can.

My point is that psychological science, while reasonably good at identifying root causes of many problems, has done an amazingly poor job addressing and curing them.

Can't argue that one. Not much into that part of the medical profession anyway.

In the case of those with same-sex attraction disorder, they have simply been abandoned by the psychological community, patted on the head, and told to sodomize each other to their hearts' content

That's because they have determined (with concurrence from the AMA) that their condition is not psychological, but physiological. Yet they continue to treat those who do have problems which may be connected to the homosexuality, as quite a few do.

"Homosexual" physiology is the same as any other human physiology--at least before the years of misuse and abuse. Any medical doctor who said otherwise is a crank.

Well, among your other talents, you can now judge the qualifications of doctors. But I'm not sure what you mean by that statement. Again, check in through your chain of command, and I'll be happy to provide some links if you like.

Enjoyed. Gotta go now. You're a good sport.

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