GOP GETS ALIEN-ATED FROM PREZ (House Repubs dead-set against--legalization deemed political suicide)

NY POST ^ | 5/25/06 | DEBORAH ORIN

[Liz]

It's a good bet now that there won't be any law to legalize illegal aliens - at least before next fall's election. As many Republicans see it.....(the Senate) Democratic amnesty bill....would amount to political suicide..... House Republicans are dead-set against legalization, convinced that backing Bush's plan would so infuriate conservatives that they'd sit out the election and let Democrats win control of Congress.

The Senate can't pass the bill alone, so as long as the House holds firm, any compromise bill won't include legalization......

Karl Rove got an earful when he tried to persuade House Republicans yesterday - 19 of the 20 who spoke out said no way to legalization......"It was a very cool reception. No matter what the president and the Senate call it, people see it as amnesty," said House Homeland Security chairman Peter King (R-L.I.).....The White House claims voters want to get "something" done. House Republicans like King say their voters, by a 99-1 margin, would rather see nothing than allow an amnesty.

......House Republicans will be led by a very tough negotiator to try to reach a compromise deal - House Judiciary chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) A tenacious, even truculent negotiator - he was a House impeachment manager against Bill Clinton..........

[Liz]

We were gifted with a Democratic Republic. .... The will of the people, we the people........

Too often, it goes unnoticed that the Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government. The gov't sometimes acts like it is the reverse equation.

The citizenry does not exist to serve the government.

The Founders intended to protect the people's rights by limiting the powers of government. Any action which is intended to protect the people's interests from an errant government---as in the immigration dilemma---is in keeping with Constitutional imperatives, and is to be applauded.

That the Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government goes unnoticed..........and untaught. Unfortunately, liberal thought police have indoctrinated generations with Marxist/Socialist agit-prop so that many see the gov't as the solution to problems, and work to grant gov't more and more power over the lives of the citizenry.

We see here in the Senate immigration bill what happens when an arrogant gov't gets too much power.

[LowCountryJoe]

We know how well that's working out, don't we. Using this logic, why are FReepers clamoring for anything legislative to be done? I mean, it has already been done, right?

[Liz]

........ I think even a lot of Democrats will vote Republican after they see the voter registration drives that the Mexican lobby wages for this fall. Many will start to see Dems as the party of Mexicans and Republicans as the party of Americans. I really think this can backfire on the Dems big time.......

N-i-c-e, very nice, take.

[mewzilla]

The citizenry does not exist to serve the government.

Hear, hear!!

It's called public service for a reason...

[butternut_squash_bisque]

This explains it a lot better:

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html

[BurtSB]

Hello

These figures are old and skewed. In the 70's. Ted and the Dems changed the demographic mix of immigrants from requiring an education or skill and english speaking to no english and unskilled to fill the DNC voting ranks . Its worked for the dems since the liberal birth rate is negative !The only way the dem stay in power are these illegals !Thats why the bill was ghost written by TED!

[butternut_squash_bisque]

See post #45.

[Penny]

Lest we forget, Mrs. HR Clinton joined around 35 other dems in voting for Mrs. Feinstein's amnesty bill, a bill giving LEGAL STATUS to EVERY illegal alien currently in our country. Yep! Every illegal alien! Lou Dobbs has the complete list up.

Won't everybody on this thread please take a moment to write Jim to thank him for holding firm? A few words of support always lift the spirit:

sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov

Regards . . . Penny

[rbg81]

I agree--they'll find some reason to cave. Ultimately, its all about the $$.

[Jameison]

"The Senate can't pass the bill alone, so as long as the House holds firm, any compromise bill won't include legalization......
"

Music to me ears.



"......House Republicans will be led by a very tough negotiator to try to reach a compromise deal - House Judiciary chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) A tenacious, even truculent negotiator "

Very good.
Folks, time to step up the phonin' and writing of our congressmen..
This is the time to step up the pressure on our congressmen and stiffen their resolve even further against, granting any amnesty of any sort to Vicente Fox's rabid, American flag abusing, Mexican flag waving, reconquista screaming hoard of Mexican illegals.

[butternut_squash_bisque]

"We were gifted with a Democratic Republic."

We were gifted with a Democratic Constitutional Republic.

[Luke21]

My senator is McCain. That is truly a waste of time.

[LibLieSlayer]

The two are not mutually exclusive. We could also be called a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY.

LLS

[olezip]

"The White House claims voters want to get "something" done."

That "something" is that we should just secure our borders, and then take whatever time is needed to rework our immigration policy, including how best to deal with illegal aliens already in this country.

[Liz]

Relax.....hyperbole is used in political debates----"doing nothing" is nothing but hyperbole.

[Jameison]

"All the local jurisdictions should send their problem illegals to Washington DC by bus and release them in front of the Capitol."


You don't wanna do that.
They'll simply start demonstrations for "immigrant rights" right in front of the capitol.

[squarebarb]

Mexicans have been promised big social programs forever and they never materialize.

Mexico is living off the money Mexicans send home from US.

If we cut off immigration there will probably be some kind of serious social unrest, but it will just be rioting as there is no one and no party to lead to better things.

Mexicans have been programmed since the 'Thirties that gov't will do everything for them. There is no concept of self-suficiency.

Fox and the PRI (I know he is PAN but PAN is about defunct) doesn't want riots. That's about all they can hope for.

Lived there for several years and I speak Spanish, and have heard the endless flood of socialist and anti-American propaganda that comes out of the Mexican media but it adds up to going nowhere.

[Liz]

My senator is McCain. That is truly a waste of time.

Let McCainiac explain his activities with funding the Arizona-Mexico Commission, and the Border Infrastructure Project being implemented in collaboration with federal, state and local government agencies. For more info, go here:

FROM THE ARIZONA-MEXICO COMMISSION WEB SITE http://www.azmc.org/

Welcome to the Arizona-Mexico Commission (AMC) online news and information resource. The Arizona-Mexico Commission is Arizona's premiere cross-border organization. We are a mission-driven non-profit organization chaired by Arizona's governor, Janet Napolitano.

Our mission is to improve the economic well being and quality of life for residents of Arizona by promoting a strong, cooperative relationship with Mexico and Latin America through advocacy, trade, networking and information. Looking for funding? Look no further and check out AMC-ASU’s new funding database: Unlocking the gates to grant sponsorship in Arizona!

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LINK State of Arizona Border Infrastructure Project http://www.bip.arizona.edu/

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The University of Arizona Office of Economic and Policy Analysis developed the Border Infrastructure Project concept in partnership with the Arizona-Mexico Commission. It is being implemented in collaboration with federal, state and local government agencies. Border communities and stakeholders will be engaged in this project through outreach efforts.

[ECM]

Amen for Constitutional literacy...now about that pesky amendment...

[Jameison]

"My senator is McCain. That is truly a waste of time"

Write to the members of the House and Senate panels that is going to conference, and don't spare anyone's feelings.
The message must be gotten acorns to these guys ...Secure the borders, and obey the law. The Senate's Bill is a disaster in the making. It MUST be killed.