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Only Nixon Could Go to China, and Only Pence Could Sell Amnesty to the House
Human Events Online ^ | May 24, 2006 | Mac Johnson

Posted on 05/24/2006 7:26:06 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan

Yesterday, Rep. Mike Pence, whom I generally like and agree with, offered his personal plan for legalizing illegal aliens as "the guest-worker plan that conservatives should embrace." But it is not. There is very little about it that is substantially different from a dozen other plans, except that it is a conservative proposing the "compromise" in this case.

And that is precisely why I believe that Pence's plan is more dangerous than the other legalization schemes -- because it will not be subjected to the same level of skepticism and examination as a compromise produced by Senators Kennedy or McCain or Reid. It is thus more likely to be actually passed by the House in the name of "doing something" on immigration before voters boot its members from office for what they’ve already been doing on immigration. Pence’s position within the conservative movement has served to immunize the proposal from most attacks, but should it be so immune? You be the judge.

In a nutshell, the plan is to allow the 12 million immigration criminals already in America to become legal guest workers, and to remain in the country doing the proverbial jobs that "no American will do" (for the same low wages.) That's it. That's the big "outside the box" idea conservatives should allegedly embrace. Rep. Pence, however, claims that his idea is not like the others because of two important details.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 05/24/2006 7:26:08 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan
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I heard the cute one Hannity shoot at the glaring holes in his proposal today. Man do we have any leaders that see the light? NO SHAMNESTY!


2 posted on 05/24/2006 7:34:44 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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I heard the cute one Hannity shoot at the glaring holes in his proposal today.

Hannity is galactically stupid. I didn't hear his interview, but his butt-ignorant arguments against Dubai ports were embarrassing.

You may as well face it. Pence is the hole in the dike that will lead to a compromise with the Senate.

Pence is a pragmatic politician, not an ideologic demagogue.

4 posted on 05/24/2006 7:39:24 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: timgsu

Now I'm REALLY scared!


5 posted on 05/24/2006 7:40:02 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: timgsu
Let me assure all.

Who are you? You sign up tomorrow and you expect to be soothe the savage beasts around here?

6 posted on 05/24/2006 7:40:43 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: samadams2000
Given that an overwhelming majority of voters in favor of securing America's borders Hannity indeed did an excellent job of articulating a winning political strategy for the upcoming elections: Republicans must insist on an up or down vote for a border wall as a stand alone proposal. A vote that will provide plenty of ammunition for conservatives to use against Democrat & RINO opponents.
7 posted on 05/24/2006 7:42:47 PM PDT by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Mike Pence`s plan is not the answer.

HR4437 is THE answer.

Secure the borders and enforce employer sanctions, FIRST! After the Feds get the enforcement part up and running, then it'll be time to discuss a temporary worker program. The path to US citizenship, is to follow the law.

8 posted on 05/24/2006 7:43:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: timgsu

That may be true now. However, if we lose the house, it will go through "as is".


9 posted on 05/24/2006 7:43:50 PM PDT by kara37
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
The loophole in any plan of course is the promise of enforcement will never be followed up on. It will remain just an empty platitude.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

10 posted on 05/24/2006 7:43:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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If our "conservative" Congressmen vote any of this amnesty crap (Which will not only destroy the Republican Party, but the country as we know it) its adios to the GOP for me. Constitution party hello!
These rinos are worse than the Dims. At least you know up front that they're the enemy.


12 posted on 05/24/2006 7:49:54 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: sinkspur
Pence is a pragmatic politician,

Does that mean that when he's bought, he stays bought?

Really pragmatic and politician are two words that should never be used together.

13 posted on 05/24/2006 7:51:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Why the GOP is committing political suicide is beyond me. The prospect of legalizing millions of criminal immigrants, who will be dependent on big government handouts for years, if not forever will certainly mobilize the Democratic base which realizes that when you couple amnesty, a large pool of dirt poor illegals, and motor voter laws, they are essentially bringing in millions of Democratic Voters to advance the same socialist agenda that makes such a lovely place to leave.

On the other hand demoralized GOP voters, feeling betrayed and unwilling to send money to, or go out of their way to vote for those that betrayed their values, will stay home in droves on election day. The Dims may not be able to take control of congress, but we can sure give it to them.

When will the GOP learn, you can't out pander the Dims, that is their specialty. This Amnesty fiasco is going to be just like the prescription drug fiasco. A major burden on society, resulting in the unnecessary expenditure of billions of taxpayer dollars without buying a single Republican vote.
14 posted on 05/24/2006 7:52:13 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: timgsu
By the way , Nixon ,who I loved , had an approval rating of 38% the day he resigned. Bush is 29% to 44%. What does that tell us?

That Nixon resigned because he really was a crook?

15 posted on 05/24/2006 7:53:19 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur
pragmatic politician = euphemism for (politician willing to compromise his core principals to buy votes) The irony, is the only voters that he will be creating are Democratic ones. Welcome to the Peoples Republic of "Upper Mexico"
16 posted on 05/24/2006 7:56:56 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

The Senate bill is worse than no bill. Secure the border first. Then decide what to do with the illegals. The Senate bill needs a House stake driven through its heart. So typical of the RINO-led Senate: Pass a bill, any bill, and get out of town.


17 posted on 05/24/2006 7:57:17 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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Secure the border -- stop all the free social services such as education, health care, food stamps, ADC; and stop granting citizenship automatically to those born in US of illegal residents. Crack down on employers... if there is no free lunch and employers start going to the slammer, there will be no incentive to be here. And mandate any city, municipality, school, hospital and state that receives any federal funds cooperate with Immigration services to identify and deport any illegal alien they encouter. No more "safe citites" which allow them to ignore the rule of law.
For that matter, just pass legislation which mirrors Mexico's laws regarding illegal entry and employment in their country....
I'm done supporting any party that votes for amnesty for law breakers and continues to legislate benefits to those who do not conform to present law. But I'm afraid the fight is lost when a conservative state like Texas grants in-state tuition to foreign nationals here illegally...there is no excuse - our legislators should be ashamed and be held accountable!!
This issue may well spawn a third party candidacy as most of us will not support a Rep. party that continues to push legislation such as is proposed in the Senate. As sure as you can say Ross Perot a third party will put Hillary in the WH. and what a travesty that will be!!!


18 posted on 05/24/2006 8:15:17 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: sinkspur
That Nixon resigned because he really was a crook?

And that statement tells everyone more about your mental abilities and what you believe than you will ever guess.

19 posted on 05/24/2006 8:16:22 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Say it ain't so, Joe.


20 posted on 05/24/2006 8:17:45 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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