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Intelligent Judging — Evolution in the Classroom and the Courtroom
New England Journal of Medicine ^ | 5 25 06 issue | George J. Annas, J.D., M.P.H.

Posted on 05/24/2006 2:05:53 PM PDT by flixxx

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Religious arguments have permeated debates on the role of the law in medical practice at the beginning and the end of life. But nowhere has religion played so prominent a role as in the century-old quest to banish or marginalize the teaching of evolution in science classes. Nor has new genetics research that supports evolutionary theory at the molecular level dampened antievolution sentiment.1 Requiring public-school science teachers to teach specific religion-based alternatives to Darwin's theory of evolution is just as bad, in the words of political comedian Bill Maher, as requiring obstetricians to teach medical students the alternative theory that storks deliver babies. Nonetheless, stork lore is not religious lore, and the central constitutional objection to banning evolution from the public-school curriculum or marginalizing it is that this would violate the "establishment clause" of the First Amendment, which provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The United States has had two waves of religion-inspired antievolution activism, and a decision by U.S. District Court Judge John E. Jones III made just before Christmas 2005 marks the end of the third wave.2

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1 posted on 05/24/2006 2:05:54 PM PDT by flixxx
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping


2 posted on 05/24/2006 2:11:46 PM PDT by flixxx
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To: flixxx

bump


3 posted on 05/24/2006 2:12:34 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: flixxx
Thanks. This is newsworthy because it's in The New England Journal of Medicine. Good history of the whole issue. Definitely worth the read. I'm cranking up the ping machine.
4 posted on 05/24/2006 2:17:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Evolution Ping

The List-O-Links
A conservative, pro-evolution science list, now with over 370 names.
See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit,
and How to argue against a scientific theory.

5 posted on 05/24/2006 2:18:50 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Dumb question, how do I join a Ping list?


6 posted on 05/24/2006 2:23:13 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: PatrickHenry

iirc, the AMA has defined "gun violence" as a disease.

I don't much care for 'em when they get into politics.


7 posted on 05/24/2006 2:24:59 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Mazda3Fan
PING LIST EXPLANATION.
8 posted on 05/24/2006 2:41:07 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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iirc, the AMA has defined "gun violence" as a disease.

Yeah, the AMA was the first to publish the nonsense ratio (the ratio of non-justifiable to justifiable gun homicides) and claimed it to be meaningful measure of the public utility of legal gun ownership.

How that one slipped by peer review is beyond me.

This article seems to be pretty good, though.

9 posted on 05/24/2006 2:44:04 PM PDT by curiosity
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A decent, if abbreviated, summary. I would have liked to have seen more about the creationism trials of the 1980s and more details about the Dover case. But these are available elsewhere, so that's not necessarily a weakness of the article -- but I do think there should have been some mention of the "Wedge Strategy" -- which gives away the religious underpinnings of the ID movement, and puts the lie the claims to the contrary.

The other key element in that area -- the attempt to cover the religious nature of the movement -- can be found in this section of the article:

"The court heard extensive testimony about whether intelligent design qualifies as science and whether intelligent design took into consideration that there could be any other intelligent designer than God. The petitioners introduced into evidence early drafts of the book on intelligent design referred to by the Dover School Board, Of Pandas and People, some of which had been written before *Edwards v. Aguilard* and some of it after the opinion had been rendered. This evidence helped to persuade Judge Jones that intelligent design was just a new term for creationism"


This is followed by three things that convinced the judge of the religious nature of the movement -- and of its attempts to hide it:


"By comparing the pre and post Edwards drafts of Pandas, three astonishing points emerge:

"(1) the definition for creation science in the early drafts is identical to the definition of ID [intelligent design];

"(2) cognates of the word creation (creationism and creationist) which appeared approximately 150 times were deliberately and systematically replaced with the phrase ID;

"and (3) the changes occurred shortly after the Supreme Court held that creation science is religious and cannot be taught in public school science classes in *Edwards*."


Devastating. Add to this the evidence of lying on the part of several witnesses for the school board -- and this decision is going to provide a very strong precedent.

Now I await the inevitable claims that:

1) ID is not religious, and it is not about creationism.

and

2) Those who oppose ID are just anti-religious/anti-God/etc.


We might get lucky and hear these two claims from the same person again.





10 posted on 05/24/2006 2:44:47 PM PDT by Almagest
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"this country wasn't founded on Muslim beliefs or evolution. This country was founded on Christianity and our students should be taught as such."

LOL. Who was it that invited a Muslim zealot to help argue for ID?

11 posted on 05/24/2006 2:48:03 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: King Prout

NEJM is published by the Massachusetts Medical Society, not AMA.


12 posted on 05/24/2006 2:48:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (...founder of African Amputees for Pat Robertson)
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Not like they're not raving liberals, but they write a good journal (can't be wrong on everything).


13 posted on 05/24/2006 2:50:49 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: King Prout; PatrickHenry
Sorry, I meant to say the nonsense ratio was first published in the New England Journal of Medicine, not the JAMA.
14 posted on 05/24/2006 2:53:58 PM PDT by curiosity
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Brought to you by the same journal that brings you this garbage.

Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home

15 posted on 05/24/2006 2:57:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ahayes


<< Not like they're not raving liberals, but they write a good journal (can't be wrong on everything). >>


Case in point: This article is hardly more than a brief historical summary. The facts given are easily confirmed. The only "conjecture" is that the "fourth wave" of creationism will be "teach the controversy" -- and I think that is already in evidence.

Liberals can be wrong on a lot of things, sure -- but I have known some pretty good mathematicians who were political liberals. Didn't seem to hurt their math skills.


16 posted on 05/24/2006 2:59:00 PM PDT by Almagest
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To: curiosity
Doctor to patient: "Do you have any guns in your home?

Patient to Doctor: "Do you have any sex toys in your home?"

Doctor to Patient: "OK, no more gun questions."

17 posted on 05/24/2006 2:59:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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"Brought to you by the same journal that brings you this garbage."


In the gospels, when Jesus is introduced to Nathaniel, Nathaniel hears that Jesus is from Nazareth, and he says, "Can anything good come out of Nazareth?"

Same logic.


18 posted on 05/24/2006 3:00:52 PM PDT by Almagest
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To: Almagest

No it's not. You would have a point if the journal was named the New England Journal of Medicine and Political Lunacy. No points for you. Spin again.


19 posted on 05/24/2006 3:05:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Do you find errors in the reporting of the facts in the article?


20 posted on 05/24/2006 3:06:47 PM PDT by Almagest
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