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Dunlap man's medals questioned (Fake Marine Hero)
PJStar.com ^ | May 24, 2006 | Dave Haney

Posted on 05/24/2006 12:55:11 PM PDT by Graybeard58

No military service records can be found for him

DUNLAP - With only five other men in U.S. history being awarded the Purple Heart eight times over, Theodore C. Bantis of Dunlap would be the only Marine known to have earned such distinction.

He would be one of only 362 Marines to receive the rare and coveted Navy Cross during what he lists as three full combat tours in Vietnam before retiring after 30 years as a colonel.

Impressive and honorable as it may appear, the medals and the rank Bantis claims all appear to be lies. He never spent a day as a Marine in his life.

"It really denigrates the whole idea for the awards," said Tom Maher, a local Marine who served in Vietnam around the same time Bantis claims.

Maher said he first approached Bantis about three years ago during a Memorial Day event in Peoria.

"I told him, 'You do realize you're wearing your awards incorrectly?' He just turned and walked away," Maher said Monday. "I never could find out if he was telling the truth or not."

Others also now wonder.

The U.S. Marine Corps Records Branch in Quantico, Va., which has a database of more than 2.8 million men and women, lists no Theodore Bantis as ever serving in the Marine Corps, according to 1st Lt. Rob Dolan, a Marine spokesman.

Through it all, Bantis maintains his awards are genuine.

"I'm a very private man, and I'd prefer to keep it that way," Bantis said Monday from his rural home. "That was more than 30 years ago. I don't like to talk about it."

However, Doug Sterner, who is considered the foremost authority on military awards today and runs homeofheroes.com, a Web site that honors heroes, said Bantis never earned the awards he's pinned on himself.

"He's a fake. I can verify for you that Mr. Bantis is not a recipient of the Navy Cross," said Sterner, who was commissioned by the U.S. Marine Corps Heritage Foundation and works closely with Marine Corps History Division, to generate what is the only existing database of Navy Cross recipients.

Sterner further notes Bantis wears the Navy Cross incorrectly. Photos of Bantis at various events show he has added a silver "V" pin on the ribbon, denoting "valor," but the Navy Cross is only awarded for valor and is never worn with the pin.

But Bantis, 59, has led his family, friends, veterans and others in the community to believe otherwise. For how long or why is unclear.

Over at least the last few years, he's made visits to local Marine Corps functions, military funerals, fund-raisers and Memorial Day events under the guise of being a retired colonel. Bantis helped the Kiwanis Club gather soccer balls to send to Iraqi children and is on the Peoria-based Marine reserve unit's e-mail list. He also spoke about 9-11 victims to an audience at Illinois Central College in Peoria on Sept. 11, 2004, in full military regalia.

"He might do great things for kids, but if he did what is being alleged - wearing the uniform and medals - that's a totally different ball game," said 1st Sgt. Casey Samborski, a member of Company C, 6th Engineering Battalion, who along with other Marines are disturbed and angered at the idea of Bantis posing as a hero.

Still, there's nothing that shows Bantis ever used his fictional rank for profit, and he's never filed for any veteran's benefits.

Regardless, there are federal laws against impersonating military officers and wearing medals that were never earned. In Illinois, a new law takes effect Jan. 1, 2007, making the act a petty offense.

While Maher and other Marines shared their suspicions among themselves, it wasn't until Bantis attended an annual Marine Corps birthday ball six months ago that the apparent lie started to catch up with him. There, a picture caught Bantis donning the medals.

A biography he provided for the event included a long list of military honors and claims that he held command in special operations and intelligence groups. It also said he graduated from Pepperdine University in Los Angeles with a master's degree in education. However, an official with the school's alumni association said Tuesday she has no record of Bantis attending the school.

The biography and picture were sent to Sterner, who has referred the case to FBI Special Agent Thomas Cottone Jr., who has investigated more than 100 cases of military fraud. He says incidents of military impersonation are on the rise.

A Pennsylvania man was charged this month by federal authorities for impersonating a lieutenant colonel who had been awarded the Navy Cross, and the Silver and Bronze stars. The man actually had served only three years in the Air Force as a plumbing specialist. In 1995, an Illinois judge, who later resigned his post, lied for years about receiving two Medals of Honor, the nation's highest military award. He could not be prosecuted, though, because he was never seen wearing the medals.

As far as Bantis' personal life, little is known. He moved to Peoria from Spokane, Wash., about six years ago and was married, according to Journal Star archives that listed a filed marriage certificate. He also claims to be the chief operating officer of a business called the Adeptus Corp., although no information could be found about the company.

Bantis claims his military records are sealed because of his work with naval intelligence.

But Cottone rebuts Bantis' statement saying his name would still appear in the Marine Corps' records.

Sterner adds that even the most classified who have earned honors such as the Navy Cross will receive recognition that is publicly available.

"They are desecrating everybody who ever served in the military, who ever was wounded or lost a limb in battle and certainly those who gave their lives," Cottone said. "They are stealing the respect and admiration that belongs to those who have actually served."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Illinois
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To: Lee Heggy123

Add me to that list and include a full uniform removal immediately upon meeting.

Semper Fi


21 posted on 05/24/2006 1:10:06 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Fury

Sealed (or lost) records, secret (nonexistent) bases, having served in no particular place but "all over" (ie., nowheres near) Vietnam, service in a unit known only to the CIA Director and "under his direct command", and a general ignorance about the military generally characterize these phony veterans. How a "judge" could have claimed to have won two Medals of Honor when virtually no one has (did Dan Daly earn two?? I know Tom Custer, the general's brother did in the Civil War).


22 posted on 05/24/2006 1:12:46 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Graybeard58
I made E-4 twice, can I claim I made E-8?

Only if you can add a SNCO school cert to back it up! :-)

Semper Fi

23 posted on 05/24/2006 1:13:59 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: OldCorps
Wasn't there an Admiral in the 90's that killed himself when it was discovered that he wore an undeserved medal?
24 posted on 05/24/2006 1:15:18 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals are serial liars)
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To: Fury
It's gotten to where when I hear somebody claim to have been a SEAL, Special Forces or "spec ops" I get suspicious.

Unbelievable a guy faked the MOH. Those are easy to verify.

25 posted on 05/24/2006 1:16:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: rocksblues
Yes, in Naples. He liked to wear all sorts of medals he never earned.
26 posted on 05/24/2006 1:17:49 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Fury


Most be common...some nutter that worked at a place I did...claimed to have been a Navy SEAL, openly.

Then one day, an actual Navy SEAL was visiting their parent that worked for the company...and wanted to meet the guy...of course the guy (poser) immediately ran out of the office for the day.


27 posted on 05/24/2006 1:18:06 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: metesky


C'mon...hasn't everyone been an USAF Major, and fighter pilot, at a bar before...


28 posted on 05/24/2006 1:19:30 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: colorado tanker

Some you can physically check on though. Most who are in the community or have a clue can filter out the liars fairly easily.

Example: All Ranger school classes have their graduation pictures on the web and open to public access. Ask what year a guy graduated and you can see his picture, or not :)


29 posted on 05/24/2006 1:20:14 PM PDT by Red6
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To: OldCorps


"Major Gen. James S. Livingston, a retired member of the U.S. Marine Corps and a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor"

No James S. Livingston listed among the CMH awardee's, There's a James E. Livingston listed. Could he be a fake or is it a typical newspaper error?

http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/865/public/news721253.html


30 posted on 05/24/2006 1:21:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58; Coop
Bantis claims his military records are sealed because of his work with naval intelligence.

"They are desecrating everybody who ever served in the military, who ever was wounded or lost a limb in battle and certainly those who gave their lives," Cottone said. "They are stealing the respect and admiration that belongs to those who have actually served."

Another Stolen Valor story. Maybe this guy served with Congressman Murtha.

31 posted on 05/24/2006 1:24:03 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush Code Pink, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the womyn)
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To: 2banana
1995, an Illinois judge, who later resigned his post, lied for years about receiving two Medals of Honor, the nation's highest military award.

You've got two be kidding me. Has anyone, EVER, received two MoH?
32 posted on 05/24/2006 1:26:47 PM PDT by samson1097
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To: Red6
All Ranger school classes have their graduation pictures on the web and open to public access. Ask what year a guy graduated and you can see his picture, or not :)

I didn't know that. But then, I admit I never went to Ranger School. :-)

33 posted on 05/24/2006 1:26:55 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: rocksblues
Wasn't there an Admiral in the 90's that killed himself when it was discovered that he wore an undeserved medal?

Admiral Borta I believe ... not absolutely sure of the name, but as I recall it was Borta (or something close).

34 posted on 05/24/2006 1:29:38 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Graybeard58
While Maher and other Marines shared their suspicions among themselves, it wasn't until Bantis attended an annual Marine Corps birthday ball six months ago that the apparent lie started to catch up with him. There, a picture caught Bantis donning the medals.

That is one major-league asshole.

35 posted on 05/24/2006 1:30:34 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: samson1097
I am not sure about the other services but two Marines have won the MOH twice. They would be GySgt Dan Daly and Gen Smedley Butler.

SIC
36 posted on 05/24/2006 1:31:14 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS ("Our responses to terrorist acts should make the world gasp." - When Devils Walk the Earth)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
I admit to flying high in several barrooms over a long and distinguished career.
:O)

Fighter pilot? As my Old Man used to say, "Boy, you sure can pilot. Pile it here, pile it there..."

37 posted on 05/24/2006 1:41:21 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: ccmay
This has to be some sort of psychological disorder. Back in the 50's a fellow in Utah ran his nonexistent heroic military career all the way to the House of Representatives. Of course within a few months some newspaper reporter connected the dots and demolished his story on the front page. He was a one term congresscritter.I guess today if he were a rat they would all circle around and denounce the denouncers.
38 posted on 05/24/2006 1:41:22 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Graybeard58

A Semper Fi Walter Mitty...


39 posted on 05/24/2006 1:41:31 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: in hoc signo vinces
C'mon...hasn't everyone been an USAF Major, and fighter pilot, at a bar before...

Personally I never wore a watch big enough to get away with that lie, so I never tried.

I always looked straight in the eyes and said I'm a Sergeant of the United States Marine Corps, and had to catch them before they hit the floor.

40 posted on 05/24/2006 1:44:45 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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