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Hillary appalled
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/05/23/everest.deaths.hillary.ap/index.html ^

Posted on 05/23/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by jbp1

Sir Edmund Hillary expresses regret and indignation over recent incident where Everest climbers allow fellow climber to die.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: hillary; mountaineering; mteverest
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To: plain talk

Same thing crossed my mind. If I could have at least stuck around without jeopardizing my life, I would have. But if he were too far gone, I'm not sure I would have risked my life either. Sounds harsh, but one can only do so much in the face of danger without risking their own life.


21 posted on 05/23/2006 8:32:15 PM PDT by derllak
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To: al baby
It depends on what you mean by named afterward
22 posted on 05/23/2006 8:33:47 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: plain talk
"I think it depends on how far gone he was.

Or how quickly they could fire up the hibachi.

23 posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (There are only a few absolute truths in life, the rest are just opinion.)
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To: yankeedame

Is there any more to that parable?


24 posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:32 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: 1ofmanyfree; al baby; martin_fierro
ask her thats what she said

Yeah, when she was 5 yrs. old!

Well, since, as we all know, little Hildegard was an adopted orphan survivor from a WWII bunker in central Berlin whose family name was not Rodham to begin with, it is entirely conceivable, that her name was changed from Hildegard to Hillary when she was 5 years old. Come to think of it, I wish Dan Brown would investigate this historical mystery and write a book about it. Opie could then direct the movie.

25 posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Darkwolf377
abandoned it to bring a human being down and save a human life

I would also be proud.

In this case there are some questions. For example, some say there is no way the man could have been saved from that altitude. (Impossible to carry another, etc.)

I don't know if that's true. Sir Edmund apparently thinks it could have been done.

26 posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:44 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: jbp1

Sir Hillary is still alive, 53 years later. How many people knew that? I'd like to ask him if he keeps on taking his constitutional walks to the top of a mountain.


27 posted on 05/23/2006 8:35:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: martin_fierro

I couldn't resist....
http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=87 : )


28 posted on 05/23/2006 8:36:26 PM PDT by The Mayor ( We are moving in on Albany! http://www.newyorkcoalition.org)
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To: derllak

Unless horrible weather threatened, how could it be worse to stay at the same spot on the mountain vs. keeping on going up?


29 posted on 05/23/2006 8:36:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: derllak

Oh, and I would expect that Sir Hillary is a BIT of an expert on the matter of Everest climbing.


30 posted on 05/23/2006 8:37:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: martin_fierro; al baby
FYI:
During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world's highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton's given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn't become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born)....
Sir Edmund Hillary was a rather obscure beekeeper in New Zealand when HRC was born.
31 posted on 05/23/2006 8:38:09 PM PDT by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: Liberty Valance

I will quote from the end of that article, quoting Sir Hillary:

"There have been a number of occasions when people have been neglected and left to die and I don't regard this as a correct philosophy," he said in an interview with the Otago Daily Times newspaper.

"I think the whole attitude toward climbing Mount Everest has become rather horrifying. The people just want to get to the top," he told the newspaper.

Hillary later told New Zealand Press Association he would have abandoned his own pioneering climb in 1953 to save another life.

"It was wrong if there was a man suffering altitude problems and was huddled under a rock, just to lift your hat, say 'good morning' and pass on by," he said.


32 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:54 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: caryatid

Mrs Clinton says she could hardly breathe.

"Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?'

"I was furious and getting more so by the second


33 posted on 05/23/2006 8:40:26 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: al baby
wow you mean she made it up ?

Absolutely not. When liberals get caught telling fibs, they've just been misunderstood. When caught flatfooted, they just mis-spoke.

34 posted on 05/23/2006 8:40:32 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: derllak

"But if he were too far gone, I'm not sure I would have risked my life either."

Some of them were going UP. They were already risking their lives, they just chose to risk it for superficial fame instead of for a fellow human being.


35 posted on 05/23/2006 8:40:41 PM PDT by kenth
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To: al baby
Liberals lie.

Also ... they believe that, if they tell the lie often enough [or loudly enough], at least some people will believe it and pass it on ... and, eventually the lie will become truth.

Liberals lie.

36 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:17 PM PDT by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: rottndog

He puts his money where his mouth is. My uncle was posted in Nepal by the United Nations years ago to conduct soil erosion studies. He only had to climb around the foothills with the Sherpas but managed to get altitude sickness once. Sir Edmund allowed him to recuperate at his home there in Nepal. This was probably fifteen or twenty years ago. Now my uncle and aunt are preparing to go to China in August to teach English for a year. He has a real case of wanderlust.


37 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:54 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: kenth

That's true. I don't think I could leave someone to die for my own gain. A human life is worth more than that.


38 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:56 PM PDT by derllak
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To: al baby

"ask her thats what she said"

She just lies all the time, that's all.

How could she have been named for Sir Edmund whose climb was in 1953, when she was born in 1947?


40 posted on 05/23/2006 8:45:34 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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