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Presidential, Senate, House, Army Oaths of office (Where does it say illegals aliens have rights?)
Army.mil ^ | 5/23/06

Posted on 05/23/2006 7:04:23 PM PDT by Libloather

Presidential - "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pioaths.html

Senate - "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Oath_Office.htm

House - "I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

http://clerk.house.gov/members/oathoffice.html

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/oaths.htm


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; army; house; oaths; office; presidential; rights; senate
Just wondering - if I journey to Mexico and lose my visa, do I get a job, free health care, and free social security?
1 posted on 05/23/2006 7:04:28 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

An oath only works with honorable men. No honor means no meaning in an oath.


2 posted on 05/23/2006 7:12:11 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Libloather
"Where does it say illegals aliens have rights?"

They do, according to another FReeper who quoted chapter, paragraph and verse last week.

To wit:

'You have the right to remain silent . . . '

(Sorry, forgot who said it.)

3 posted on 05/23/2006 7:15:23 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Libloather
VOTE ALL INCUMBANTS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!!


Doogle
4 posted on 05/23/2006 7:15:41 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: Libloather

Read the U.S. Constitution and its Amendments and note the uses of the words "Citizen" and "Person."

The people are granted Constitutional Rights not just Citizens.


5 posted on 05/23/2006 7:16:21 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Doogle

Sum'B!tch, Doogle!! Thank you for your service!! (I just read your tagline and am responding to that.)


6 posted on 05/23/2006 7:23:26 PM PDT by true_blue_texican (grateful texan! -- whoops! I'm sober tonight, what happened?)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

>The people are granted Constitutional Rights not just
>Citizens.

So are there any "people" in the world that *don't* have the rights of "citizens" in this country called the United States of America? Or did I mis-understand you?


7 posted on 05/23/2006 7:24:12 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: ROTB

All people within the territory of the U.S. are protected by the Constitution.


8 posted on 05/23/2006 7:26:14 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: ROTB
From the 14th Amendment"

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

9 posted on 05/23/2006 7:31:09 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
The U.S. Constitution confers rights, privileges and immunities on ''persons'' there is no mention of those considerations being limited to ''citizens.'' Eg: No ''person'' may be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law----- or ''equal protections of the laws''---''No person shall shall be held to answer for [ a crime, etc]---nor shall any person [double jeopardy] and so on... References to ''person'' and ''the people'' permeate to document.

No doubt there is a growing emotional ground swell to deny non-citizens the protections of the Constitution, but, the organic document that governs every person within our borders--lawfully or otherwise, says what it says thus, absent a totally amended constitution, the matter is really not open to legal challenge.

10 posted on 05/23/2006 7:42:14 PM PDT by middie
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To: middie
Exactly. However, many 'good citizens,' who are products of our government schools believe that rights are only granted to citizens.
11 posted on 05/23/2006 7:52:17 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
Read the U.S. Constitution and its Amendments and note the uses of the words "Citizen" and "Person." The people are granted Constitutional Rights not just Citizens.

People refers to LEGAL residents and citizens. LEGAL residents have the same rights as citizens, ILLEGALS don't. If the constitution applied to ILLEGAL ALIENS then every person in the world, regardless of where they were physically located, would have rights under the American constitution.

Only an outright scatter brain can interpret the constitution to mean non residents have rights, which is what an ILLEGAL ALIEN is. Until they have been granted legal resident status they are NON residents and have no rights under our constitution. grow up and stop trying to push your ILLEGAL ALIEN agenda.

12 posted on 05/23/2006 7:57:29 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: Libloather

Better than the oath of office in Article II, Section 3, which requires that the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." If the dolts that run the Left had a lick of sense, the Bush administration's failure to enforce the immigration laws would be enough for impeachment both legally and politically. Of course, Republicans are the true dolts because the Democrats prefer to let Bush stay in office and keep the borders open so as to let millions of future Democrats stream into the country with his aquiescence.


13 posted on 05/23/2006 8:02:11 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: calex59
Are you saying that when an Illegal Alien in arrested they DO NOT have their 4th, 5th or 6th Amendment Rights?

How about when 700,000 Illegal Aliens protest in the Streets of Los Angeles? Are they protected by the 1st Amendment?
14 posted on 05/23/2006 8:02:35 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
How about when 700,000 Illegal Aliens protest in the Streets of Los Angeles? Are they protected by the 1st Amendment?

No.

15 posted on 05/23/2006 8:07:53 PM PDT by Libloather (As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools...)
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To: Libloather
Well then if 700,000 are breaking the Law, why doesn't the Government arrest them?
16 posted on 05/23/2006 8:11:52 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV; Libloather
Then who are the "...enemies, foreign and domestic" referred to in the above posted oaths of office for Senate, House, and Commissioned Officers?
17 posted on 05/23/2006 9:26:48 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

You are right.

But how this translates into taxpayers being an eternal resource to be tapped into for handouts is beyond me.


18 posted on 05/23/2006 10:23:27 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV; calex59
Are you saying that when an Illegal Alien in arrested they DO NOT have their 4th, 5th or 6th Amendment Rights?

I think there are many who would say that, which is very disappointing.

Once you're willing to throw away the rights of others, you have already begun to lose your own.

It's very simple - if you don't like the law, amend the Constitution. Don't try and redefine its meaning with lawyerly tongues. That's a Lib tactic, and beneath any conservative.

19 posted on 05/24/2006 5:11:02 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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