Deja Vu: The JBS Was Right to Oppose Amnesty 20 Years Ago and Still Is Today!

thenewamerican. ^ | June 2, 1986 | William F. Jasper

[rottndog]

Those who support Bush and the Senate's version of shamnesty are telling the same lie that was told in 1986:

"Give us amnesty now, and we'll crack down on the borders and enforce immigration laws later."

It was a lie then, it's a lie now (Bush being the liar-in-chief).

[Texas_Jarhead]

"The Simpson and Rodino bills are quite similar on most major issues: increased INS funding, amnesty, employer sanctions and verifications, increased penalties for document fraud, and temporary worker provisions. Amnesty, or "legalization," will prove once again to be the major drawback to both bills. The Simpson bill provides temporary legal resident status to illegal aliens who entered the United States prior to January 1, 1980, or to Cubans and Haitians who entered prior to January 1, 1981. After two and one-half years, this can be adjusted to permanent resident status, then citizenship. The Rodino amnesty proposal is even more liberal. Temporary resident status is granted to illegal aliens and Cubans and Haitians residing here since January 1, 1982. The status can be upgraded to permanent residency after only one year."

Take out the names and dates and this could have been written yesterday.

[Migraine]

I'm usually pretty good at acronyms; but I read and read in these pieces and couldn't get at what the JBS in the headline was referring to. What am I missing?

[dennisw]

John Birch Society

[Migraine]

Thanks! Hey, howya been?

[No.6]

So ... Reagan bad, Birchers good? Sorry, where this is going I won't follow.

[Boiling point]

Birchers are extremely hard core Constitutionalists and Anti communist. My kind of people. I believe Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is a member, And Rep. Larry McDonald became president of JBS just before he was killed along with 268 others in IIRC . that Korean Passenger liner that was shot down by china for supposedly entering their airspace. Cant remember the flight number.

[Tenniel]

KAL 007. September 1, 1983.

[Richard Kimball]

Larry McDonald was on KAL 007, which was shot down in Soviet air space in 1983. Yes, he was a member of the John Birch Society.

[VOA]

Employer Sanctions
Employer sanctions also go into effect on June 1st.

The same old lies...

[Boiling point]

Thanks, I'm not trying to missinform, I just have the memory of a crack baby. At least I can hide my own Easter Eggs.

[No.6]

"Birchers are extremely hard core Constitutionalists and Anti communist."

They're a few other things too. I don't particularly want to get into a flamewar but I tell ya, if the 'hardcore' position on immigration is against Reagan and with the Birchers, I'll side with Reagan. His anti-communism policy worked, and I trust the optimism of Reagan over the dour pessimism of some others.

[Spirited]

The Birchers are whatever they make themselves out to be.

They couldn't do anything before and they can do less now even though they have a few right ideas. Theirs is a stance of convenience.

[Richard Kimball]

I like some of the positions of the John Birch Society, but they fall into the trap of many of the Constitutionalists/Libertarians. Basically, they're so hard core, they turn people off with their rhetoric. It's a shame, because they make some good points. However, if you question any aspect of what they say, they get more and more agitated, and most of the ones I know tend to spit when they talk, so you have to have a rain coat to carry on a conversation with them for too long.

Interestingly enough, whenever I take a "political opinion" poll, I track out as a Constitutional libertarian, but I can't talk to most of the Libertarians on FR because they remind me too much of Bobby Boucher's mother. "George Bush is the Debil!"

[Nephi]

Bircher: Someone who is conservative, but has the social acceptance of an Amway rep.

[DumpsterDiver]

Ping.

An article from 1986 about the need for immigration reform with the same political rhetoric we're hearing today. Some dislike the John Birch Society, but they were spot on.

The Simpson and Rodino bills are quite similar on most major issues: increased INS funding, amnesty, employer sanctions and verifications, increased penalties for document fraud, and temporary worker provisions.

[Lurker]

The difference between Reagans anti-communism stance and his stance on immigration is that one of the two actually worked.

L

[dennisw]

An article from 1986 about the need for immigration reform with the same political rhetoric we're hearing today. Some dislike the John Birch Society, but they were spot on.

It's amazing how similar the rhetoric was back then. That's exactly why I posted it. I could give  a hoot if it's from a Bircher publication.

Birchers were the ones who used to put up billboards:
"Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the USA"

[dennisw]

Bircher: Someone who is conservative, but has the social acceptance of an Amway rep.

Got anything intelligent to say about these 20 year old immigration amnesty articles?