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1 posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

What does Hastert have to hide? All the facts are clear, the Rat was caught,
not a debatable issue. Hastert must be covering here for something else.

26 posted on 05/23/2006 6:03:54 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()....tag line under construction...... ()
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Any constitutional lawyers, or anyone with some knowledge of this please explain.

Apparently the FBI as a section (branch?) of the judicial cannot investigate the legislative (congress/senate). But then who would be tasked with this?
27 posted on 05/23/2006 6:04:24 PM PDT by tongue-tied
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If this is the case they can hide anything they want in their offices on Cap Hill....


28 posted on 05/23/2006 6:04:42 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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Does anyone remember the Contract with America?
In it the Republicans pledged to require all laws that apply to the rest of the country, also apply to Congress


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Government reform
On the first day of their majority, the Republicans promised to hold floor votes on eight reforms of government operations:

Require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;

cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
limit the terms of all committee chairs;

ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;

require committee meetings to be open to the public;

require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;

and implement a zero base-line budgeting process for the annual Federal Budget.

I remember the contract well, Gingrich pushed for it
and I believed him.
Did Hastert and Frist agree with this contract?
If so, then they agreed to
Require all laws that apply to the rest of the country
also apply to Congress

Going against this is going to seriously bite them bad...
Their Republican base will revolt en mass, including me

29 posted on 05/23/2006 6:04:45 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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It is an interesting question that is being raised here.

Suppose that some Dem Congressman was selling drugs out of his office to the Dem Staffers. Would he not be subject to a search of his office? Would it take "an act of Congress" to see if he had drugs in his office? What if the Dems were the majority - would they move an inch? I don't think so.

Methinks this is simply a question of law and breaking the law and not separation of powers. OTOH, I'm betting that the Supremes will get to decide that issue because this guy is going to go kicking and screaming to court asking them to throw out any evidence they gathered from his office. And he will probably call that idiot Hastert as a witness.

30 posted on 05/23/2006 6:05:31 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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I'm so sick of this crap that I don't care if democrats take the house and senate. At least we will be watching people who know how to play politics.




31 posted on 05/23/2006 6:05:56 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

It would be the wiser course to not do so. Don't confirm the perception of the voters that you truly do believe yourselves to be above the law because of your "special" status. Or you could dig an even deeper hole.

34 posted on 05/23/2006 6:06:33 PM PDT by Bahbah (“KERRY LIED!! SCHOLARLY ATTRIBUTION DIED!!!”)
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The whole thing is stupid. They issued search warrants last August on his homes, which he fought in court (fought to keep them sealed). It's not like he hasn't had more thn enough time to clean out his files in his office.


35 posted on 05/23/2006 6:06:50 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

And that should be protected...however, there apparently was pretty strong probable cause, and the clause in question is not a shield against legitimate prosecution for crimes not related to speech. If it WERE related to speech, then the law itself would be unconstitutional.

38 posted on 05/23/2006 6:07:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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The Senators and Representatives . . . shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

U.S. Constitution, Art. I, Sec. 6.

Doesn't say anything about a privilege against having your office searched, pursuant to warrant, in the case of a suspected felony.

There is no legitimate constitutional issue here, and the Congresscritters know it.

39 posted on 05/23/2006 6:07:33 PM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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Does Congress have the power to order searches of the White House?


40 posted on 05/23/2006 6:07:37 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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hmmmm I wonder what would be said if the House Speaker was a DimocRAT and the raided was a republican?


41 posted on 05/23/2006 6:07:47 PM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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Since when does Denny Hastert and Steny Hoyer denigrate the federal judge who issued the search warrant. The last time I looked, the judiciary is also a co-equal branch of government.

If Congress-entity William Jefferson wants, he can make a motion to suppress any evidence taken in the FBI search of his office; and, possibly also to have his case dismissed. But, instead, all we get is blather.


45 posted on 05/23/2006 6:09:02 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

Members of Congress are NOT above the law

And Congress is NOT a sanctuary for them to take bribes

54 posted on 05/23/2006 6:14:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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Not ONE Congressional sh-thead will stand up and demand Hillary account for her possession of 900+ FBI fils. Hell, the FBI won't even stand up on that one.


55 posted on 05/23/2006 6:16:15 PM PDT by Waco
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Racketeering 101 The Don has to protect the gang whether or not he is member of the Democrat Crime Family or the Republican Crime Family. The fatboy becomes bipartisan in hurry when it means the whole corrupt house of cards might be in danger.


57 posted on 05/23/2006 6:17:12 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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Politicians have felt they are above the law for a long time. Hastert just wants to make it official. Another proud gop moment
58 posted on 05/23/2006 6:19:11 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Another misleading headline from the MSM.


61 posted on 05/23/2006 6:19:58 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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Maybe they should raid Hastert's office next?


63 posted on 05/23/2006 6:21:27 PM PDT by TommyDale (North Carolina looks forward to the disbarring of Mike Nifong.)
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A new defense, the police call them rolling papers, I call them legislative papers.


64 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:07 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Liberalism is like a religion....islam)
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