Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. May Alter Tech-Export Rules For Chinese Trade
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 23, 2006 | Andrew Batson

Posted on 05/23/2006 3:50:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BEIJING -- The U.S. will soon propose changes to its security controls on the export of high-technology products to China as the administration rethinks its approach to the system, according to a top U.S. trade official.

The export controls are designed to monitor trade in "dual-use" goods, or products that can have civilian and military uses. The designation covers a widening range of technology products as a result of the growing role of information and communication systems in modern warfare.

Balancing security and business concerns is difficult for U.S. policy makers. The widening trade deficit with China has increased the pressure to allow more exports, just as worries over China's rising military strength lead to calls for greater vigilance.

David McCormick, who, as U.S. undersecretary of commerce for industry and security, heads the export-control program, said the goal is for the system "to be as targeted as possible." A two-pronged package of changes will be officially proposed in coming weeks, he said.

On the one hand, the Commerce Department is looking at tightening controls on a group of technologies that don't now require a license to be exported to China. The proposal would put restrictions on their sale to Chinese military -- but not civilian -- customers. Mr. McCormick declined to discuss the technologies at issue but said the current draft list of about 40 items is much less restrictive than some earlier proposals.

Those new restrictions would be balanced, he said, by a program to reduce the licensing burden for legitimate Chinese buyers of U.S. technology. Buyers that could show they consistently meet their licensing conditions and have no military links would be offered an easier way through the process.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; communists; dragonsfury; exports; pla; prc; redchinese; techexports; trade; usa

1 posted on 05/23/2006 3:50:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; ...

PING!


2 posted on 05/23/2006 3:53:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The proposal would put restrictions on their sale to Chinese military -- but not civilian -- customers.

Uh...in Red China, they are more than likely the same, and it doesn't take rocket science to figure that out.

3 posted on 05/23/2006 3:58:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Those new restrictions would be balanced, he said, by a program to reduce the licensing burden for legitimate Chinese buyers of U.S. technology.

Legitimate Chinese buyers...of U.S. technology. Isn't that an oxymoron?

4 posted on 05/23/2006 4:10:42 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
How many businesses are there in China? Are you claiming every one of them is associated with the military?

I'm not comfortable with congress deciding what technology is sensitive and what technology is too commonplace nowadays to regulate. Congress ought to appoint some sort of BRAC-like commission to make suggestions about export policies with members picked out of military/intelligence circles, economists, etc, almost entirely government, and get rid of the commerce department. But banning every technology export you can think of isn't going to help matters, much less trying to effectively regulate European, Asian, and Israeli trade with China.
5 posted on 05/23/2006 4:10:58 PM PDT by dr_who_2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oh, how soon we forgot that it was none other then Bill(I did not have sex with that woman) Clinton who took bribes from his buddies at Hughes Aircraft, Loral, and Motorola to send along missile guidance technology to our "friends" in the PRC.....
6 posted on 05/23/2006 4:11:22 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

More smoke and mirrors.


7 posted on 05/23/2006 4:11:37 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Back in the good old days, BC that is, the State Department controlled what was exportable technology and what was not.

Then Slick Willy transfered that authority to the Commerce Department.

Some of the stuff I used to design/work on had to be cleared by the NSA for export. It fell under a VERY broad category of "munitions", even though it had nothing to do with weapons..just some sophisticated electronics that could be "dual use".

Prior to Clintons changes, there was NO WAY IN HELL that China would have gotten the goodies it got from Loral and Motorola, (and, I suspect, Hughes).

Fine and dandy to close the barn door now, the cow is in the next county.


8 posted on 05/23/2006 4:31:49 PM PDT by EEDUDE (A penny saved is......a penny Congress overlooked.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dr_who_2

I'm saying that if there is a chance for dual use technology going to China, it should be kept out of China on that basis alone. You can bet your bottom dollar that in the PRC, if dual use technology makes it there in whatever sector, that the military will get ahold of it in short order.


9 posted on 05/23/2006 5:26:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

Yea buddy.


10 posted on 05/23/2006 5:27:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Paul Ross
Legitimate Chinese buyers...of U.S. technology. Isn't that an oxymoron?

But would think that this would be a welcome sign since it will help with the trade deficit? They are reassessing the situation. Some technologies will actually increase in restriction. So, wouldn't you want that, to a range of technologies being reassessed?

11 posted on 05/25/2006 4:53:43 PM PDT by ponder life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ponder life
But would think that this would be a welcome sign since it will help with the trade deficit?

No. Just like when we sold steel and scrap metal to the Japanese prior to WW-II...it will cost us dearly. No savings. Just death. Stupid.

They are reassessing the situation. Some technologies will actually increase in restriction.

So they say. And that undercuts your trade deficit yak.

So, wouldn't you want that, to a range of technologies being reassessed?

Sure...so long as it was done by honest people. We have no guarantee the Xlintonites and Panda-Huggers are still not running the show.

12 posted on 05/25/2006 5:17:08 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

(((((((((Ping))))))))


13 posted on 05/25/2006 5:19:27 PM PDT by sit-rep (http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paul Ross
No. Just like when we sold steel and scrap metal to the Japanese prior to WW-II...it will cost us dearly. No savings. Just death. Stupid.

Well, the situation is different. Japan had invaded Manchuria in 1932. And throughout the 1930's, they launched outright military assualts throughout the Pacific. However, today, there are military exchanges between the US and China. Relations are improving. Back in the 1930's, relations between the US and Japan got worse.

So they say. And that undercuts your trade deficit yak.

It could go either way, but honestly, we both know that the intention is to cut the trade deficit.

Sure...so long as it was done by honest people. We have no guarantee the Xlintonites and Panda-Huggers are still not running the show.

You act as though you have no say in the whole situation and that America is hijacked by the very few. The reality is, we live in a democracy, and you can vote. Also, keep in mind, many of the high tech corporations are the one's pushing to sell to China. Founders, managers, developers, financiers, etc. of many of America's tech corporations are the ones pushing to sell to China their technology. To put it bluntly, it appears to me (and I admit this is purely an observation on my part) that those who have the least participation in developing America's high tech sector are the most vocal against selling technology to China.

14 posted on 05/26/2006 9:24:17 AM PDT by ponder life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

"Balancing security and business concerns is difficult for U.S. policy makers."

Its only difficult for avaricious porcines whose only interest is their investments and contributions

" The widening trade deficit with China has increased the pressure to allow more exports, just as worries over China's rising military strength lead to calls for greater vigilance."

Thanks to America's policiy of permitting companies to shut down operations here, unemploy Americans, move operations to Red China, use slave labor and export the products back here for resale to those same unemployed Americans.

And you are right - in Red China, selling products to "civilians" will guarentee the military and government gets them.

The cupidity and avarice of our government officials and corporations exceed even the wildest expectations of those Communists who said Capitalism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction.

Companies which close operations in America, lay off American workers, and move operations to Red China should be banned from importing products here or hit with such a high tariff that they can't compete with the few American competitors laft.

Free trade is indeed a good idea - as long as the playinig fields are equal and we aren't subsidizing the military machine of a country who is our philosophical enemy.


15 posted on 05/26/2006 9:38:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ponder life
it appears to me (and I admit this is purely an observation on my part) that those who have the least participation in developing America's high tech sector are the most vocal against selling technology to China.

That is not mine.

16 posted on 05/26/2006 9:42:51 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Paul Ross
That is not mine.

I don't imagine it would be.

17 posted on 05/26/2006 11:14:46 AM PDT by ponder life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson