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BUSH: 'In the event of any attack on Israel, the United States will come to Israel's aid'...
Drudge ^ | 5/23/06 | Drudge

Posted on 05/23/2006 2:24:09 PM PDT by Vision

BUSH: 'In the event of any attack on Israel, the United States will come to Israel's aid'...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allies; allyisrael; bush43; israel; middleeast; proisrael
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To: HitmanLV
Do you have Kluver-Bucy syndrome?
or are you just a Troll?



261 posted on 05/23/2006 3:48:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: HitmanLV
Do you know the UTM coordinates of Ahmjinedad's residence?

No matter; plenty of our missiles already have it memorized...

And, if your "Tel Aviv" crater came to pass, the vast majority of Americans would consider anything longer than the flight time of an ICBM to be dragging our feet.

262 posted on 05/23/2006 3:48:45 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!!!)
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To: Williams

No, the original point was how much the USA would defend Israel in the event of an attack. I think not so much. I hope I'm wrong.


263 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:01 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Vision

I think those advocating a pre-emptive attack on Iran are moving in the right direction, but don't go far enough with their piece-meal approach. I say go pre-emptive all the way: simultaneous nuclear first strikes on Iran, North Korea, China, Russia, and Venezuela. Nothing else has the capability of unifying all of us behind the President like a just war. No one will dare criticize President Bush once we're fully involved in war with every single nation on the planet that poses a threat to our security. It'll make us forget all this divisive immigration debate too, and help our party hang on to Congress this November. A "win-win" scenario, in other words.


264 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:13 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JewishRighter

Don't you think the President's statement is to cause Russia and China to pressure Iran?


265 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:21 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Constantine XIII
True, but they can't stop eveything getting in either. Just look at the weapons and other materials getting into Gaza these days.

I think the Arabs will try and nuke Jerusalem.

266 posted on 05/23/2006 3:49:47 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: Mamzelle
Do you really think so? My own take is that interest and support for Israel has declined enormously. Democrats used to support Israel--all that's left is Leiberman. US Jews don't really support Israel--76% voted against Bush, and Kerry is not pro-Israel.

I agree. A little dose of clarity for the Freeper kick arse contingent is a good thing! Thanks!

267 posted on 05/23/2006 3:50:01 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: JewishRighter
"I agree with you, but does anyone have a good feel of how the Russians or Chinese would really react if action was taken against Iran? In other words, they may have there calculation of "backing" Iran calibrated to a certain tolerance. For example, they might say, we'll go to the mat for you in the diplomatic arena, but once the shooting starts, they are outta there. I don't have a sense of just how strong the Russian or Chinese commitments really are."

I agree. My sense is that they are talking tough, trying to be an irritant to the USA, but do not want to expend TOO much capital in defending Iran, much less get involved in a nuclear showdown.
268 posted on 05/23/2006 3:50:01 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Taylor42

Nah, they want it for their own. It's special because Mohammed parked his horse there or something. :)

They'd much rather have Tel Aviv blown up.

IMHO.


269 posted on 05/23/2006 3:51:04 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: LadyNavyVet
No they wouldn't commandeer it. Maybe a very religious terror cell will commandeer it (with a nuke Iran gets to them).

Who's to say the world knows about it? Try again.
270 posted on 05/23/2006 3:51:35 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: All
For the last 40+ years it has been an open secret that(in a crisis) the Israeli Air Force is for all practical purposes an extension of the US Air Force.
The understanding is roughly this. Rather than build and maintain another 10 Nimitz class carrier battle groups at an enormous expense, we give billions of dollars a year to Israel. They buy modern aircraft from us, they fly them maintain them and base them in Israel. We sell them AWACS and other modern systems which are fully compatible with our air defense systems. Israel gets to use these systems to defend itself. In return if push comes to shove those airplanes will fly missions in support of US forces.
I guarantee you that US AWACS planes already have all the Israeli frequencies preprogrammed and could just as easily vector an Israeli plane to its target as an American plane.
For all the talk, everyone in the region well understands that it is immaterial if the WMD attack is on Tel Aviv or Tallahassee the response will be precisely the same.
271 posted on 05/23/2006 3:52:17 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: HitmanLV

Hmmm. Interesting observation. You won't find anyone who would agree more that the current "leadership" (quotes fully intended as sarcasm) is weak. But there is a deeply ingrained attitude that, when the existence of the state is put directly on the line, the Israelis are prepared to open up ye olde can of whoopass with a capital A. Unfortunately, they seem prepared to allow the existence of the state to be threatened in little increments, like the frog in the pot metaphor. Ironically, that may be worse, because they may have lost it before they really know it, Heaven Forbid.


272 posted on 05/23/2006 3:52:37 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Vision

No.


273 posted on 05/23/2006 3:53:26 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Vision

I'm thinking, give us an excuse, Mahmoud. Give us an excuse...


274 posted on 05/23/2006 3:53:50 PM PDT by RichInOC (Iran War 2006: Better 25 Years Late Than Never.)
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To: Constantine XIII

I'm a grouchy guy! ;-) No offense.

The records are fine, but they will just tell the story after it happened. And I was just pointing out how Tel Aviv could be nuked without a missle. There are other ways too, I'm sure.


275 posted on 05/23/2006 3:53:59 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Uddercha0s
What.. you think we don't have the instinct in us to kill? Do you not know our history.. crap nothing.. don't go here with me or I'll beat you like the little b*tch you are

internet tough guy huh? It isn't about races so don't be a dipshit. Tell you what tough guy, maybe you should look at who the SecState is. She ain't white the last time I checked Senator Byrd.
276 posted on 05/23/2006 3:54:19 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: Diogenesis
Neither.
277 posted on 05/23/2006 3:54:26 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I agree, Steve. The Russians and Chinese are onboard with Iran only as long as it serves their interests, because the Russians and Chinese are onboard with ANY country only as long as it serves their interests.

If the mullahs go off half-cocked and nuke Israel, the Russians and Chinese will drop them like a hot potato.


278 posted on 05/23/2006 3:54:38 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Steve_Seattle

That's my gut, just from looking at what it is really worth to the Rooskies or Chicoms. In other words, to them, its just business and the cost/benefit calculation don't offer enough to make it worth blood, treasure or a few population centers.


279 posted on 05/23/2006 3:54:46 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: no dems

I don't mean to diss your religious beliefs but this should be approached pragmatically and not based upon anything written in a holy book.


280 posted on 05/23/2006 3:55:42 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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