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GIULIANI '08: A REAL CHANCE
The New York Post ^ | 5/23/06 | John Podohertz

Posted on 05/23/2006 9:51:04 AM PDT by Blackirish

May 23, 2006 -- IN my new book ("Can She Be Stopped?"), I suggest that the Republican best suited to the challenge of preventing Hillary Clinton's ascension to the Oval Of fice in 2008 is Rudy Giuliani. A Fox News Opinion Dynamics poll released yesterday offers some strong ballast for the idea: In a head-to-head matchup, Rudy beats Hillary 49 percent to 40 percent, the best showing among all Republican contenders.

By contrast, John McCain has a 46-to-42 advantage over Hillary - besting her but not as decisively as Rudy does. Rudy is viewed favorably by 64 percent of those asked, McCain by 49 percent (Hillary: 50 percent).

And this is not a poll of Republicans alone: The respondents are 41 percent Democrat, 32 percent Republican and 21 percent independent.

It's probably not surprising that Rudy wins in a head-to-head contest for the presidency. After all, Hillary is a lightning rod - while he, once a hugely controversial figure, has become beloved.

But what about in a Republican primary? Can Rudy possibly win?

In surveys of Republican primary voters, two names top every list - Giuliani and McCain. Each gets support from around 30 percent, with every other possible contender hovering around 2 or 3 percent at most.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: TAdams8591
"I doubt it. Guilliani is too Liberal for most Republicans"

That's why more Republicans are backing him more than any other candidate, right?
701 posted on 05/24/2006 6:53:52 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: mariabush

Charisma is the life blood of politics without it no politician will get to the White House. I am familiar with Huckaby and know he will get a lot of opposition because of his martial problems from "true" conservatives. And he has less recognition than Allen.

These are reaches. It will be very difficult for a more conservative candidate to get the nomination.


702 posted on 05/24/2006 6:58:09 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: George W. Bush

Yeah, like the farmers are SOO immune to celebrity. Rudy will have them eating out of his hand after a few stories.
Farmers appreciate a good performer as much as anyone. And they appreciate even more a man who can get things done.


703 posted on 05/24/2006 7:00:52 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Jameison
Anyone who thinks/says Hitlery Clintong is the be all, end all of the presidential election has either already conceded defeat or has ulterior motives...

Julie-Annie is on the same side of too many issues as Hitlery Clintong and his personal behaviors are little different than her husband's (sex pervert lawyers). If the country rots from within, all the pre-staged tough talk and slick image crafting by the Madison Avenue crowd ain't gonna cut no mustard.

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By contrast Guiliani told that Saudi Prince to STUFF IT,...

Yeah, all talk. I would have broken his neck. Of course, I was a combat soldier, and never a skinny tassle shoed lawyer...

704 posted on 05/24/2006 7:15:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

What kind of martial problems? Karate, judo, or Tae Kwon Do? I don't know much about him.


705 posted on 05/24/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Farmers appreciate a good performer as much as anyone. And they appreciate even more a man who can get things done.

Not really. Farmers are pretty cynical about politicians. And the Rockefeller wing leads the way in opposing farm subsidies. And while they might like someone who can get things done, they are far more opposed if they think that the things he'll do are not in their interest.

He'll be a tough sell in Iowa.
706 posted on 05/24/2006 7:20:25 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: LibertarianInExile
I will never, ever, vote for Rudy. And I will tell everyone exactly why: the man cheated on his wife--knowing his young kid would certainly find out--while in Gracie Mansion. This man wasn't trustworthy enough to commit to a marriage he has already sworn to before God and man, with a family at stake, when his child is going to see that misbehavior. Now, we're supposed to trust him with the entire country? ...personally, he's slime, and that's enough for me to just say no to Rudy.

Amen----that says it all, for all of us.

Now you have to pinpoint just exactly who is pushing Rudy's candidacy.......and that would be the Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-You lobby.

Nothing for conservatives, nothing for the unborn, nothing for pro-life judges, nothing for pro-marriage traditionalists, nothing for small government, nothing for those aching to restore a damaged American culture.

Rudy's adopted Republicanism was expedient and calculatedly designed for his political ambitions....not b/c of any sort of Repub principles. Candidate Rudy also placed his name on the Liberal line and proceeded to give Liberals top jobs in his administration---- one of Rudy's Liberal appointees, Russel Harding -- son of Liberal bigwag Ray Harding---stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from the city, and enjoyed gay porn and trips with gay buddies on the taxpyaers dime. Russel's brother also got a big NYC job. For all intents and purposes Rudy-R and Hillary-D are scrounging for the same votes.

Rudy is politically ambitious to the point of obsession---he will do and say whatever is necessary to further his political ambitions. As, for example, when Repub Rudy endorsed Democrat Mario Cuomo for governor (over Repub Pataki who won) b/c Rudy calculated it was in his own best interests to have a Dem in Albany when he decided to run for Governor (this was pre-911). Even now, around NY politics---you hear talk about "Giuliani Democrats." If Giuliani thought it was in his best interests, he would run as a Democrat without blinking an eyelash.

(Q.) Who does not trust people with principle?

(A.) A politican who has none.

707 posted on 05/24/2006 8:22:05 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Alberta's Child

It's laughable to see suggested here that we conservatives are sacrifice all our principles and embrace Mayor Rudolfo, just b/c Rudy is a suck-up, and fellated his campaign contributors by telling off a Saudi Prince. To get the presidential nod, Rudy will stick his head up the backsides of so many hyphenates, it'll take emergency surgery to get it out.


708 posted on 05/24/2006 8:37:52 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: katiebelle
"I would rather take a liberal conservative any day over Hillary or Gore or Kerry."

Sorry, but you totally lost me here.

709 posted on 05/24/2006 9:12:25 AM PDT by lormand (Michael Savage - The "turd in the punch bowl" of Conservatism. The maniac is a populist in fact.)
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To: linda_22003
"Mike Pence would be the first to tell you that a politician needs name recognition to get anywhere."

WTF are primaries for?

Should we pick the most recognizable now, 2 years before the national election?

I sense surrender already by weak kneed moderates, which is typical.

710 posted on 05/24/2006 9:15:10 AM PDT by lormand (Michael Savage - The "turd in the punch bowl" of Conservatism. The maniac is a populist in fact.)
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To: lormand

I understand about primaries. My point about name recognition referred to the fact that you referred to MIKE Pence as TIM Pence.


711 posted on 05/24/2006 9:16:37 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003
Thanks, I stand corrected.
712 posted on 05/24/2006 9:17:57 AM PDT by lormand (Michael Savage - The "turd in the punch bowl" of Conservatism. The maniac is a populist in fact.)
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To: Jameison

Dear Jameison,

You're confusing number of mentions in the media with name recognition. Certainly, mentions in the media help one obtain name recognition, but often, once you got it, you got it.

Richard Nixon doesn't get mentioned in the media much anymore, either, but I daresay that large numbers of folks still remember who he was.

Mr. Giuliani's face was the face of New York, even the face of America Defiant in the aftermath of September 11. I'd be very surprised if his name recognition were to have fallen off appreciably since then.

"It's a recognition by the American people of his very solid achievements,..."

I think that Mr. Giuliani's record contrasted to Mrs. Clinton's is likely favorable in the minds of many people. It certainly is in my mind. I'd heartily endorse Mr. Giuliani over Mrs. Clinton for US Senate or governor of New York.

But there are plenty of folks, including me, who will understand that we social conservatives have already lost the 2008 election if Mr. Giuliani is the presidential nominee of the Republican Party, and he won't get the votes of folks who understand that.

However, by your assessment of Mrs. Clinton (if only most Americans would share it), we should be able to put up just about anyone against her and win.


sitetest


713 posted on 05/24/2006 9:41:37 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

What marital problems? As far as I know Huckabee and his wife Janet are doing just fine.

Do you have hime mixed up with Tim Hutchinson?


714 posted on 05/24/2006 10:12:09 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: linda_22003

He was divorced.


715 posted on 05/24/2006 10:27:12 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: mariabush

Oh, you are right I did get them confused. One H looks like another.


716 posted on 05/24/2006 10:27:50 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: linda_22003

I confused him with Hutchinson. mariabush straightened me out.


717 posted on 05/24/2006 10:29:00 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: George W. Bush

There is no Rockefeller wing of the GOP. The man has been dead over two decades.

Cynicism will not prevent Rudy from wowing the Iowans or anyone else.

He will do well enough in Iowa to survive to win the major states. IF he runs and that is a big IF. Right now there is only McCain who can challenge him.


718 posted on 05/24/2006 10:32:13 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Liz

A message foul and false. But the challenge remains to find someone capable of beating Guiliani. So far there is only McCain.


719 posted on 05/24/2006 10:33:29 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Oh, MARITAL. When you said "MARTIAL" I assumed you meant something about the martial arts.


720 posted on 05/24/2006 10:39:33 AM PDT by linda_22003
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