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Exclusive: A Rising Star Offers His Own Immigration Plan (Leading House Conservative Mike Pence)
Time ^ | 05/23/2006 | By MIKE ALLEN

Posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:41 AM PDT by notes2005

With the Senate headed toward a final vote on an immigration bill this week, a leader of House conservatives is asking his colleagues to support a free-market plan aimed at bridging the gulf between the versions in the two chambers. The proposal by Rep.Mike Pence (R-Ind.), provided to TIME ahead of an unveiling speech at the Heritage Foundation, is arguably less compassionate than the version being debated in the Senate and supported in principle by President George W. Bush.But it looks to be more palatable to House Republicans, many of whom have opposed creating a guest worker program before new border crackdowns have been given a chance to work.

Pence, a rising star in the House, is suggesting a temporary worker program based on a data base run by private industry. And unlike the leading plan in the Senate and the blueprint sketched by Bush, his “Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act” would require all applicants to leave the country first.Pence tweaks a phrase from Bush’s address to the nation by calling the compromise “a REAL rational middle ground.” Even though Bush has said his preferred solution “ain’t amnesty,” Pence appeals to hard-liners by calling the compromise a “no-amnesty solution.”

“The solution is to set up a system that will encourage illegal aliens to self-deport and come back legally as guest workers,” Pence, the grandson of an Irish immigrant, says in prepared remarks. “The visa will be issued only outside of the United States.Outside of the United States. That is a key point because it is the provision that will require the twelve million illegal aliens to leave. Now, some of you are thinking to yourselves that 12 million people aren’t going to pack up and leave just to get a visa to come back legally. But,I believe most will.”

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1 posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:46 AM PDT by notes2005
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To: notes2005

Add a provision that says that if they are caught here without the visa by a certain date that all their assets are forfeit and they are permanently barred from entry to the U.S. and citizenship and I'm on board.


2 posted on 05/23/2006 8:38:37 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

No anchor babies and build a 2000 mile fence and I'm on board too.


3 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:28 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: notes2005

Attention single issue conservatives:

Mike Pence just went RINO on you guys. It is time to vote him out.


4 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:36 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: notes2005

at first glance it looks like a reasonable plan but ... how will anyone know if these are jobs Americans won't take or haven't been offered ?

Can Americans view these job listings and apply ? Probably not. I don't trust employers to do the right thing.


5 posted on 05/23/2006 8:40:46 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: notes2005

This is a much more palateble option than the Senate Bill. I could probably get behind something like this.


6 posted on 05/23/2006 8:41:00 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: piceapungens

With some tweaks here and there, not a bad plan, best one I've seen.


7 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Bikers4Bush

How about asset forfeiture to local law enforcement? That would sure end all this "sanctuary city" nonsense. Especially out here in California, when it comes to revenue, the state is rapacious.


8 posted on 05/23/2006 8:43:14 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: sheana

One tweak I would like to see is a 2-3 month "cooling off" period once they return to their home countries. At that point they could petition for a temporary job in the US. Also, we would have tro ensure that these temporary jobs really are temporary and aren't de facto green-cards.


9 posted on 05/23/2006 8:46:36 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: glorgau

Couple that with neodad's suggestions in post 3 and I'm definately on board.


10 posted on 05/23/2006 8:50:03 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: notes2005; AZRepublican; flashbunny; Stellar Dendrite; kellynla; ARCADIA; DumpsterDiver; ...
Pence / Tancredo '08!!
11 posted on 05/23/2006 8:50:40 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: piceapungens

Probably won't fly because then the elites would have to mow their own lawns and trim their own hedges this summer.


12 posted on 05/23/2006 8:52:35 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: piceapungens
Now, some of you are thinking to yourselves that 12 million people aren’t going to pack up and leave just to get a visa to come back legally. But,I believe most will.”

Pence keeps singing "I'm a believer' does he really believe these illegals will abide by a new law, when they dont care about the laws we have now..

13 posted on 05/23/2006 8:53:18 AM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: JoanneSD

Coupled with strong interior enforcement, they wouldn't have a choice. All the illegal jobs would dry up with strong interior enforcement.


14 posted on 05/23/2006 8:56:54 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: notes2005

The Irish had to return from the states in the 80's to get the Donnelly Visas that were lotteried... It worked and many never came back...


15 posted on 05/23/2006 8:57:36 AM PDT by ARA
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To: notes2005
Pence, the grandson of an Irish immigrant, says in prepared remarks.

Gaaaaaaa!

When will these lamebrains get it!? Illegal aliens have nothing, nothing to do with immigration. They aren't interested in immigrating--becoming permanent American citizens and renouncing their allegiance to Mexico--at all! The illegal aliens who swoop over our non-border every night are coming for the goods! It's essentially massive burglary against the taxpayer. Illegal aliens are mostly coming for the free health care, free social security, tax-free wages and higher living conditions.

To compare illegal aliens secretly invading our southern borders with honorable, legitimate immigrants who did come to America to become permanent citizens is contemptibly dishonest.

16 posted on 05/23/2006 9:00:30 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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ping


17 posted on 05/23/2006 9:13:05 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: TChris

"" It's essentially massive burglary against the taxpayer. Illegal aliens are mostly coming for the free health care, free social security, tax-free wages and higher living conditions.""


Grand Theft of the American Taxpayer/Worker


18 posted on 05/23/2006 9:25:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: notes2005

I'd like to hear/see more about this idea. If it gives no priority to those here illegally but puts them equal (not ahead of)to those that haven't broken our laws it may be viable. What citeria would be used to rank those applying? Job Experience? Rudimentary English proficiency? USC children? Devil is in the details.


19 posted on 05/23/2006 9:26:33 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: JustPiper

FYI. Would appreciate your opinion.


20 posted on 05/23/2006 9:34:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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