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What's the price of Iraqi lives?--US military is behaving more like Barbarian hordes
Gulf News ^ | 5-22-06 | Linda S. Heard

Posted on 05/22/2006 4:40:28 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
> the US military is behaving more like Barbarian hordes than a well-trained army

Now, if 50% of the 130,000 or so troops in the region acted like these Marines, she might have a point. But the ratios don't really work for her hysterics to make any sense.

61 posted on 05/22/2006 5:30:20 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: PeskyOne
Stockholm Syndrome?
62 posted on 05/22/2006 5:30:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Coop
Were the ROE's changed recently?
63 posted on 05/22/2006 5:32:19 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: SJackson; Coop
I don't know who she is, but she sounds like Maureen Dowd on crack AND bourbon.

"and then they killed my granny".

An Iraqi child is supposed to have said this? granny? Assuming the child wasn't speaking in English, how did "granny" enter the picture? Linda S. Heard's fevered mind-meld maybe. What a wierd article.

(And no Coop, I'm not going to post a picture of Zeta, do I have to pay a fine? :)

64 posted on 05/22/2006 5:33:11 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission http://www.irey.com)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

What recent military action have we lost that is comparable to the scale of Vietnam burned in our memory?

With 72 hour notice, we will have a combination of terrorists and innocents leaving the area. The hard core terrorists will stay with their huge caches of weapons. I would envision a joint effort with Iraqi soldiers and officers and our allies.

The war would be over (and won) if we had done that a couple of years ago, or just after our contractors were burned and their bodies dragged through the streets. Would be helpful if we had real men instead of lawyers running this war, IMHO.


65 posted on 05/22/2006 5:33:26 PM PDT by olezip
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To: SJackson

If a nuke goes off in a US city, Iran and Syria will nuked off the map. How's that for collateral damage ?


66 posted on 05/22/2006 5:36:55 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: strange1
...then they killed my granny."...

**Throws the BULLS%^ Flag on the field*** no Middleastern child would say this.


My BS indicator went up two sentences earlier, where daddy was not only minding his own business, he was reading scripture too.
67 posted on 05/22/2006 5:38:09 PM PDT by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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To: fhlh
"IF YOU CAN'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, THEN PLEASE STAND IN FRONT OF THEM...YOUWILL GET SHOT!"

My first thought was of blindfolds and a politically corect, optional, cigarette.

68 posted on 05/22/2006 5:39:39 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton

(correct)


69 posted on 05/22/2006 5:40:43 PM PDT by norton
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To: ExpatGator
Yes please put me on the list, since I now feel as if I'm an investor!

Done. Thank you!

70 posted on 05/22/2006 5:55:48 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Rparr28922

Ahhh, okay, now I understand. Thanks


71 posted on 05/22/2006 5:56:10 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: olezip

Hey, while the terrorists are being so kind as to remain behind to be bombed, do you suppose you could ask all the ones in Pakistan/Afghanistan to go worship in a pre-wired mosque?


72 posted on 05/22/2006 5:58:14 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: SJackson

This is simply not true, and I am not sure why it is posted here. Why on earth promote this kind of anti American trash?


73 posted on 05/22/2006 5:59:52 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: SJackson
We've surely witnessed enough to know that the US military is behaving more like a Barbarian horde than a well-trained, sophisticated force.

If the Military HAD behaved like that, they would simply be repeating 5,000 years of precedent peculiar to that region.

Given the local History, a town in which an IED took out some troops would be leveled to the ground, its men slaughtered, and the rest lead away to slavery. It would be nothing at all unusual for the region, would it?

So anything less than that is a display of restraint and good sportsmanship.

The entire region has always been a festering pesthole of despots, savages, and endless wars. Were a big meteor to entirely depopulate the region, would the World be a better place, or a worse place?

74 posted on 05/22/2006 6:02:13 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Clintonfatigued

If she is American. Her citizenship should be stripped immediately and flown directly to Yemen for some true muslim indoctrination. Bitch.


75 posted on 05/22/2006 6:04:08 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Oh gosh, do you think that could be my problem?!! :-)


76 posted on 05/22/2006 6:06:47 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: mad_as_he$$; DevSix
I can't imagine the ROEs were significantly changed recently. Here's a snippet from Jan 03. Pretty standard, IMHO:

2. The use of force, including deadly force, is authorized to protect the following:

ROE

That permissive phrase allows our troops to use deadly force if, in their judgment, they are at risk of life/limb or "friendlies" identified by ROE are at risk.

If the ROE were as restrictive as some here claim (such as the MYTH that our troops cannot attack mosques, even when fired upon from a mosque), our troops would not be conducting so many offensive operations. Dev, anything to add? You're more up on current policies and the like.

77 posted on 05/22/2006 6:08:46 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: smoothsailing

I don't get the Zeta reference. C. Zeta Jones? I don't get it.


78 posted on 05/22/2006 6:09:40 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Do you think that the terrorists will pick up their weapon caches and leave? I suspect that door-to-door fighting will be needed as it was in Germany during WWII, with the vermin fighting to the last man. Should I be wrong and all the vermin leave before the bombing started, why then we would just have to find and destroy all of the weapon caches without dropping a single bomb. Given that the Sunni Triangle is occupied by the minority tribes that ruled the country with an iron fist under Saddam, I would assume that they want their power back, and, as has been demonstrated time and again, will not stop their destructive ways as long as they are allowed to maintain their base of operations IMHO.


79 posted on 05/22/2006 6:11:08 PM PDT by olezip
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To: olezip

They have not been allowed to retain their base of operations.


80 posted on 05/22/2006 6:12:07 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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