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7 deadly books? Talk of ban hits burbs
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 5/22/06 | RUMMANA HUSSAIN

Posted on 05/22/2006 12:11:31 PM PDT by Borges

A northwest suburban high school board member seeks to ban seven books from classroom use because she thinks the profanity, depiction of graphic sex, and drug and abortion references in the literature are inappropriate for teenagers.

Leslie Pinney admits she only read passages of the controversial selections, including Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five and Toni Morrison's Beloved, which were on the American Library Association's 100 most challenged books list between 1990 and 2000.

But Pinney said perusing the questionable parts of the books made it clear they weren't suitable for children and should be taken off Township High School District 214's proposed required reading list next year. The district is based in Arlington Heights.

Pinney was particularly offended by the explicit tales of masturbation and teen sex in Stephen Chbosky's The Perks of Being a Wallflower. The popular novel, often described as a modern-day Catcher in the Rye, was among the ALA's top 10 most challenged books two years ago.

'Isn't there ... a higher level?'

"We talk about the steady diet of trans fat and sugar, and we know the result is obesity and diabetes. But what are we feeding the minds of our students? They're getting a steady diet of foul language, violence and sexuality outside the classroom by the media. But when it comes to the classroom, isn't there something of a higher level to feed the minds of our children?" Pinney asked.

Other books Pinney wants replaced are The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien; The Awakening by Kate Chopin; Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, and Michael Pollan's The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World.

Many of the texts have been used in the district's six main high schools before and were reviewed by the department heads before the lists were sent to the board for consideration.

"These aren't books someone just picked out of a bookstore one Saturday morning and said, 'Hey let's put them on the reading list.' These are books that have gone through the process and were selected for their educational value," Board President William Dussling said.

'It cannot hurt to be informed'

Dussling is willing to listen to Pinney's concerns when the board meets Thursday, but he doubts the books will be removed from the curriculum. The district has an "opt out" policy if parents don't want students to participate in an activity or read a certain book, he said.

Levitt, a University of Chicago economics professor, can understand why some people may be uncomfortable with his nonfiction best seller, which correlates legalized abortion with lower crime rates. However, he said banning it for ideological reasons does not make sense.

"The book does deal with controversial topics like abortion, crime, guns and race. But we aren't making moral statements in the book about whether abortion should or shouldn't be legal, or guns should or should not be regulated. Instead, we try to look at the data and understand what impact legalized abortion or gun control has had on crime. I would think that whatever conclusion one comes to on the morality of an issue like abortion, it cannot hurt to be informed about the facts," Levitt said.

There were 404 challenges or written requests to have a book removed from a school or library filed with the ALA last year. There were 11 challenges in Illinois in 2005, compared with 10 the year before, spokeswoman Larra Clark said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: filth; hicks; hyperbole; hysteria; illiterate; nannies; pervertedfilth; smut; uncultured
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To: nina0113
Most great works of literature have sex and violence in them (Shakespeare anyone??), so to try to shield seventeen year olds from that seems kind of silly unless this Board of Education member wants to use See Spot Run and Goodnight Moon as the basis of the high school reading curriculum. Frankly, some of the books on the list (Freakonomics) aren't even "R-rated;" they just pose provocative questions.
121 posted on 05/22/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: Protagoras

I don't see how. She's exercising her right to claim that this particular book is somehow inappropriate, and I'm exercising mine to point out that she's a stupid git who's obviously either a) bordering on the illiterate, or; b) attempting to use her position to quash ideas she finds personally offensive, regardless of their actual merits. Isn't free speech wonderful? I know you'll agree, being aware of what constitutes censorship and all ;)


122 posted on 05/22/2006 1:11:46 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: linda_22003

Her job is to check up on the books being assigned by teachers. How many pages do you have to read before you decide it's not suitable to be forced on children?

How many teaspoons of dog crap are acceptable in a pan of brownies?


123 posted on 05/22/2006 1:12:07 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Alter Kaker
I daresay there were a lot of kings who were falsely accused of sexual transgressions. The political battles were just as fierce back then as now.

In addition, ONE priest's accusation does not make it true. Mighty, mighty scant evidence.

124 posted on 05/22/2006 1:13:45 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: nopardons

Does that mean that the film "The Lion in Winter" should be banned?


125 posted on 05/22/2006 1:14:29 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: nina0113
How many teaspoons of dog crap are acceptable in a pan of brownies?

The Awakening, Beloved and The Things They Carried are hardly "dog crap."

126 posted on 05/22/2006 1:14:42 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
No one said you didn't have the right to be inncorrect.

You do and have proved it.

So you think that all books should be judged appropriate for recommendation and required reading for all age groups in schools?

127 posted on 05/22/2006 1:14:52 PM PDT by Protagoras ("A real decision is measured by the fact that you have taken a new action"... Tony Robbins)
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To: Puppage

"I bet if it were graphic gay sex it'd be ok."

Good golly, think before you reply and don't just send out a cliche smarta-- comment when you do it. The person objecting to these books doesn't want sex in the required reading at all.


128 posted on 05/22/2006 1:15:13 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
There are Plenty of Gay Kings to study in World History starting with James I.

Bruce I
Lance III
Bruce II
Liberace I
Bruce III

129 posted on 05/22/2006 1:15:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Izzy Dunne
How do you have graphic sex, anyway?

With a GUI.

[ducking]

130 posted on 05/22/2006 1:15:39 PM PDT by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Not Lance III!

Who knew?


131 posted on 05/22/2006 1:15:56 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

"There are Plenty of Gay Kings to study in World History starting with James I."

We could cut their names out of the textbooks.


132 posted on 05/22/2006 1:16:35 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Skooz

Exactly,
And William the Bruce was really William AND Bruce


133 posted on 05/22/2006 1:17:22 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
First of all, homosexual acts and public behavior, of same, fifty years ago was NEVER accepted. Even talking about it, outside of THE KINSEY REPORT, was not done.

Secondly, the info about Richard I was OLD, millennia old, even 50 years ago. And it was NOT openly talked about in any school system, 50 years ago.

Thirdly, I've read the Communist agenda thingy, that you're talking about...several times. It has, after all, been posted to FR several 100s of times, since FR's inception.

And lastly, there have been English and other countries kings and princes and dukes, etc., who were homosexual; some of them actively and VERY openly! It's just an historical fact. Are you attempting to claim otherwise?

134 posted on 05/22/2006 1:17:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Siena Dreaming
Surely a board member has a right to voice an opinion about removing certain books from required reading in favor of more quality material.

Yes, the school board member has a right to voice an opinion. But just because books are required reading doesn't mean that the students are actually reading them. Why doesn't the school board discuss that problem?

What is the relative magnitude of the following problems?:
1. High school students who are functionally illiterate, can't spell, never read books, and are ignorant of the world.
2. High school students who have been led astray by a book in required reading list for an English class.

135 posted on 05/22/2006 1:17:33 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: prophetic
I just did an on line search of the Philadelphia Library  (where I live).The results for "Holy Bible" returned 534 different titles most of them have multiple copies 
136 posted on 05/22/2006 1:18:49 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: Protagoras
My M.A. is in English so I can indeed claim some expertise in this subject. But please suggest what you think the criteria should be? Every parent can't decide individually otherwise the school system is chaos. There have to be some shared criteria upon which all essentially agree
137 posted on 05/22/2006 1:19:21 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Key point made by the board member:

'Isn't there ... a higher level?

Of course there is, but apparently the public school bureaucrats have decided our children don't deserve it.

138 posted on 05/22/2006 1:19:36 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: MineralMan

"King David and King Solomon
Led merry, merry lives,
With many, many lady friends
And many, many wives;
But when old age crept over them,
With many, many qualms,
King Solomon wrote the Proverbs
And King David wrote the Psalms”

--James Naylor


139 posted on 05/22/2006 1:19:58 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: linda_22003
my reading was never censored in any way.

Parents certainly have that right.

However, since there is only limited space on a required reading list for high-schoolers, I believe a good board member will see it as a responsibility to see that the highest quality stuff is there.

I don't know why they should be castigated if they think that what they feel are lousy books should be barred from the classroom.

140 posted on 05/22/2006 1:20:11 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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