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The Massive Yet Tiny Engine (gearhead tech breakthrough!)
American Antigravity ^ | 5/12/2006 | Tin Ventura

Posted on 05/21/2006 3:35:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt

Imagine dumping the big V-8 in your SUV for a 25-pound, 2.4 liter engine that gives you 150 miles per gallon on biodiesel - with a boost in horsepower and torque to boot. Meet Raphial Morgado and the little engine that could... With up to 40 times the power to weight ratio of a conventional engine, flexible fuel compatibility, a displacement of 850 cubic inches and the torque of a 32-cylinder engine, the MYT is the beginning of a new paradigm for engines in the 21st century!

"The inspiration for the MYT Engine design came from the need to have an engine that can stand up to the tremendous abuse of drag racing. After literally blowing up more than my share of engines during racing, I swore to myself that I'd build something that met the required needs while providing higher-durability & reduced complexity in the process. Also, because this design was originally intended for the output demands of the drag-strip, I wanted a design that would give me the largest displacement, highest torque, and lightest weight available. The Massive Yet Tiny engine meets those needs, with 850 cubic inches of displacement, 32-pulses per cycle, and a 150 pound package measuring only 14" by 14" in diameter."

"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado

The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!

This series of 3 videoclips provides an in-depth look at what the MYT is, how it works, and why it's important. The "Los Angeles Auto-Show Presentation" features a 10-minute commentary on the technology by inventor Raphial Morgado, and provides details on the background of the engine and what makes it so unique. The "MYT Engine Description" clip is a 5-minute narrated animation providing a walk-through on the operation of the engine and how it compares to traditional interal combustion technology, and the "MYT Engine Testing" video shows both a closeup rotation of the cylinders in the Angel Labs prototype, as well as 2 minutes of test-videos shot with the MYT in dyno-testing on a 150-psi non-combustion airstream.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biodeisel; energy; engine; ethanol; oil; science; technology; zaq
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To: Moonman62

"Then do it, and then get back to us."

Gee MoonMan, if we'ed had people like you in charge of the space program we wouldn't have gone anywhere.


101 posted on 05/21/2006 5:39:37 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes they are. But here is their patent from 2004. I still would like to see it running in a car.

http://www.angellabsllc.com/docs/6739307.pdf


102 posted on 05/21/2006 5:39:57 PM PDT by webster
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To: uglybiker

It took 34 posts for someone to point that out. 850 cubic inches is not equal to 2.4 liters. It's more like 14.


103 posted on 05/21/2006 5:40:58 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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To: ovrtaxt

That would be the Apex seal.The only way to oil it was to inject oil into the cylinder from the crankcase i.e. constantly having to add oil.


104 posted on 05/21/2006 5:41:18 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: Fresh Wind
"American Antigravity? Yep. I believe anything they say on THAT website."

They are brave enough to explore alternatives in spite of the flatulence from the flat-earthers.
105 posted on 05/21/2006 5:41:30 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ovrtaxt

That would be the Apex seal.The only way to oil it was to inject oil into the cylinder from the crankcase i.e. constantly having to add oil.


106 posted on 05/21/2006 5:41:43 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: dljordan

NASA back in the day was a "can do" organization. When they were asked to do something, they did it.


107 posted on 05/21/2006 5:44:32 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

"There are also con artists and the gullible."

That's what some of the IBM White Shirts said about Bill Gates.


108 posted on 05/21/2006 5:44:46 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ovrtaxt

Oh boy - a prize from a government entity and working with America's queer-loving car company....sounds sweet to me...


109 posted on 05/21/2006 5:48:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: dljordan
That's what some of the IBM White Shirts said about Bill Gates.

As I recall, IBM went to Bill Gates, because he could produce a DOS in a very short period of time, not just a lot of promises.

110 posted on 05/21/2006 5:49:06 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

" As I recall, IBM went to Bill Gates, because he could produce a DOS in a very short period of time, not just a lot of promises."

As I recall, there was a LOT of oppostion from the "we don't need this crap" guys.


111 posted on 05/21/2006 5:50:17 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Hot Tabasco
"Fuel injection systems, turbo-chargers, super-chargers and all that other stuff were born on the race tracks, not in government labs."

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Good question would be how many engine advances came from aviation.

112 posted on 05/21/2006 5:51:36 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes, and when combined with the new perpetual motion machine, it will not even need fuel!


113 posted on 05/21/2006 5:54:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I don't know.


114 posted on 05/21/2006 5:54:42 PM PDT by patton (What the heck just happened, here?)
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To: ovrtaxt

Where's Joe Isuzu when we need him?


115 posted on 05/21/2006 5:55:11 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: dljordan
IBM along with many others didn't take the PC seriously in the early years. I doubt if very many IBM executives had even heard of Bill Gates until it was too late. Anyway, Bill Gates got the job because he had something ready to go. Unlike this guy and his engine.

This same article was posted on FR a couple of months ago, except this time it has the timely biodiesel claim. How long does it take to put an engine a car? The Monster Garage guys could do it in a day.

116 posted on 05/21/2006 5:57:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Spktyr; Right Wing Assault; Paladin2
Thanks very much for your info.

Damn, that's amazing to think of how far they've come.

Seems like they'll have to start running meets out at the Bonneville Salt flats. Which brings to mind when Craig Breedlove set the then land speed record @ 600.601 (I think) in the Spirit of America.

Those gearheadin' dragsters are over halfway there and Breedlove took near the whole Flats!

117 posted on 05/21/2006 6:00:00 PM PDT by rvoitier ("News is what's suppressed. Everything else is advertising.")
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To: rvoitier
Can someone tell me what's changed in the past 25 years?

Clutches on AA/FD cars are now air controlled, and have individual fingers that engage one at a time via an air solenoid, to allow the clutch to slip enough to prevent massive wheelspin. That's one thing I know about it. I'd say also better materials, engine blocks that are specifically engineered for drag racing, and probably better tire compounds as well.

118 posted on 05/21/2006 6:02:12 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: TheBattman
I read that Ford was interested a few weeks ago, but I can't locate the source right now. But- here's what I got from their forum: (This is one of the Angel Labs guys)

"We are now talkiing to several medium/large manufacturers for licensing. I guess that the retrofit market will open up earlier than the full blown automobile equipped with the MYT Engine.

You can get the engine from these licensees, hopefully, within, a year, if not earlier.

My guess is that the price our licensees charge for retrofit (or OEM) will be very close to what it replaces (with much better everything) initially. But down the line, due to competition and after recovering their initial investments, the price will drop more than half, because the manufacturing cost is, rough questimates, less than 1/10th. But please remember that there is no 32 cylinder engine out there. This 32 cylinder engine replaces your V8, V6,I6, or I4 engine.

If the licensee doesn't mind its name disclosed (for advertising reason) then you can ask directly to the company, when they can deliver the engine for you. The licensee will be very happy to cater to your order. Thx all.

Jin (AL)

I promise I will do my best to keep the information updated. Some of the NDA we sign with potential licensees prohibit us from disclosing their names. But I can probably say "Big aerospace company" or "Big automobile company" ....

119 posted on 05/21/2006 6:09:12 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt
Au contrair, math does lie, quite often. You can't have displacement bigger then the physical size of the cylinders length and bore, but you can increase the horse power above the size of the displacement. No matter how you spin it, the displacement doesn't get bigger, it may act like an engine of a larger displacement but the displacement is what it is. Measure the engine bore and stroke that is the displacement, you can't fit 100 lbs of potatoes into a 10 lb sack, and you can't make a 2.4 liter engine into an 850 CI displacement.

What is happening is double talk and sleight of hand, not a real displacement.

120 posted on 05/21/2006 6:15:22 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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