[rintense]

So you think having a father, any man who fell on a woman and created a child- AND is completely worthless as a father, a father who is absent as a father, let alone human being, is better than having no father at all?

Try as you may, this is not about my demons. Spin it all you want. I'm glad my mother made the choice she did because it *was* in the best interest of her children. And I will always love her dearly for the sacrifices she made to raise us- God rest her soul.

[papertyger]

And you think any woman with a job and a need to dominate another individual deserves to be honored as a "mother" without criticism from any quarter?

[papertyger]

So you think having a father, any man who fell on a woman and created a child- AND is completely worthless as a father, a father who is absent as a father, let alone human being, is better than having no father at all?

Oh, is this the "simple" question ;-D

Well the question might be simple, but the sentence is a trainwreck...

[gidget7]

"So you think having a father, any man who fell on a woman and created a child AND is completely worthless as a father, a father who is absent as a father, let alone human being, is better than having no father at all?"

No absolutely not, which is why a woman waits until she meets someone who actually wants to have children, and will be a good father. You seem to feel all men are lousy fathers, and that is just not true. Most of the "father problem" in this country is due to women/girls having relationships with men who obviously are not the type to stick around, and then even though they are fully aware of that, they have kids with them anyway.