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"So you think having a father, any man who fell on a woman and created a child AND is completely worthless as a father, a father who is absent as a father, let alone human being, is better than having no father at all?"

No absolutely not, which is why a woman waits until she meets someone who actually wants to have children, and will be a good father. You seem to feel all men are lousy fathers, and that is just not true. Most of the "father problem" in this country is due to women/girls having relationships with men who obviously are not the type to stick around, and then even though they are fully aware of that, they have kids with them anyway.

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You are completely wrong. I know many men who are wonderful fathers. The thinking on this thread has been that a single mother by choice would be a bad mother. But if she were to sleep around an get pregnant, that is worthy of more sympathy (and acceptance) than someone who chooses a sperm donor.

I am opposing that stance altogether.