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The myth of the easy machine gun
The Star ^ | 5/21/6 | Michael Bowers

Posted on 05/21/2006 8:15:36 AM PDT by SmithL

A ban on assault rifles, pushed by the mayor of Chicago and our governor, is moldering in the state House Rules Committee. Lawmakers can take no action until they reconvene in October. And even then, there's little chance supporters can pick up the three additional votes they need to send the bill to the Senate.

But like the villain at the end of a movie, the assault rifle ban never dies. It's just wounded, waiting to come back when you're not looking. So I thought I would look into the validity of its major argument. That is, this notion that it's easy to convert a semi-automatic rifle (legal) into a fully automatic rifle (illegal), also known as a machine gun (illegal).

I've been following the debate. One point always seems to go unexplained. Once some concerned police chief declares that semi-automatic rifles are dangerously easy to convert, the discussion leaps elsewhere. No details of the conversion task are forthcoming.

So I called a spokesman for Gov. Blagojevich in Chicago. Could you explain, I asked. How do you do this job anyway? Do you need a screwdriver? A power drill? How long does it take? Could the governor's office be a little more explicit about the mechanics of the threat?

I gave the helpful spokesman a day to do a little research, then called back. He told me had learned the root of the problem is the "conversion kit," something that allows you to replace a certain part in the rifle and make it a machine gun.

I see. Do you know the name of this part? He didn't. In fact, as he readily acknowledged, he knew almost nothing about guns at all. Not that there's anything wrong with that. He did tell me: "It's very easy if . . .

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; automatic; bang; banglist; ckc; firearms; guns; machinegun; mg; myth; rkba; secondamendment; semiautomatic; sks; sksconversion
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Another great read from Bowers. Give his site a hit.
1 posted on 05/21/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Hit and bumped.


2 posted on 05/21/2006 8:22:57 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: SmithL
It doesn't matter. All that counts is that he makes some statement that the "popular opinion polls" show is supported by the masses who shape their opinions based on TV shows.
3 posted on 05/21/2006 8:24:48 AM PDT by Red6
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To: SmithL

Good article.

I have a North Korean AK-47 (my brother-in-law gave it to me to hold when he moved to Kalifornia). I asked my father-in-law if it could be converted to fully auto (for academic purposes, of course), and he said he knew how, but it was a somewhat involved process.


4 posted on 05/21/2006 8:25:15 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: SmithL
I chose the M&M Engineering booklet specific to the SKS, which I understand to be the Chinese version of the AK-47.

He understands wrong. While both are gas-operated, and both are chambered for the 7.62x39 cartridge, they are not the same rifle, or "versions" of the same rifle.

Virtually every Communist country has (at one time) manufactured SKS carbines, including China, Russia, Yugoslavia, etc., etc.

5 posted on 05/21/2006 8:26:11 AM PDT by holymoly (Dick DeVos for MI Governor: http://www.devosforgovernor.com/)
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To: SmithL

This is a great read.

I once got into an argument with a know-it-all hoplophobe at my brother's house who claimed that all you had to do to convert an AK rifle from semi to full-auto was file down "some part". I asked if he meant the sear. "I guess so."

I then proceeded to educate him that the only thing you would get with a filed-down sear on an AK was an inoperable weapon. That really ticked him off so he did the usual liberal thing and started ad hominem attacks on me, the NRA, the Republican Party, and every other group he did not agree with.

He really went bonkers when I pressed him about whether or not he had ever handled or discharged any type of firearm. Things were getting really interesting when my sister-in-law put a stop to our "discussion".

Don't you just love gun-haters? They are so easy to discredit.


6 posted on 05/21/2006 8:26:36 AM PDT by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: SmithL
Funny he should pick the SKS for his research. The Soviets produced the SKS as a semi-auto battle rifle, not as a select fire weapon...

Despite that, this is a good piece and it explains that the conversion isn't going to be done by a schoolkid with a nail file and a screwdriver.

7 posted on 05/21/2006 8:28:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It's easier to build a pipe bomb.


8 posted on 05/21/2006 8:31:36 AM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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To: SmithL

Of course, gun control advocates ignore the fact that if you DO have access to a machine shop, producing full auto STEN guns from scratch wouldn't be all that difficult. Guns aren't exactly cutting edge technology, and its easier to produce a full auto STEN than almost any other type of gun.

I'll take an accurate rifle any day, but my point is that such clever and industrious criminals could simply start producing guns despite any ban, if they were so inclined.


9 posted on 05/21/2006 8:33:08 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: SmithL

I had never heard Blagojevich and Daley make the argument that it is easy to convert semis to full autos. At any rate is flat out illegal to own a full auto in Illinois.


10 posted on 05/21/2006 8:33:14 AM PDT by Mini-14
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To: SmithL
Install a Hellfire trigger.
Watch this video: http://www.gungarage.com/hellfireggr.wmv
11 posted on 05/21/2006 8:35:22 AM PDT by XR7
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To: SmithL
I think that full auto conversion is probably a little beyond the capabilities of your average street punk, but it is something someone of average intelligence with a decent home workshop could accomplish. Generally it involves blocking the sear that catches the hammer after each pull of the trigger, (something that is very easily done). It gets more complicated though because if that is all you do the cyclic rate will often be too high and cartridges will not have time to fully seat in the chamber before the hammer is released, resulting in jams, stoppages and loss of eyes and other body parts.

Getting beyond the simple mechanics of creating a full auto weapon though, what is being overlooked is that they aren't really that effective unless you're talking about belt fed machineguns. Submachineguns or select fire assault rifles aren't significantly more deadly than their semi-auto siblings. It's all a myth perpetrated by Hollywood.

12 posted on 05/21/2006 8:36:16 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: SampleMan

I've pointed out the same to gun grabbers before and found that informing them that they can never get rid of guns tend to irritate them to the extreme.

Palestinian children make (semi) working guns with a piece of pipe a spring and a piece of metal rod.


13 posted on 05/21/2006 8:37:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: SmithL

This must be they ad in "Shotgun News" they are referring to.

14 posted on 05/21/2006 8:40:12 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SmithL
I chose the M&M Engineering booklet specific to the SKS, which I understand to be the Chinese version of the AK-47.

Uh no Mike, the SKS is not "the Chinese version of the AK-47". The only commonality is they're chambered in 7.62x39.

That being said I don't know where this argument of conversions is coming from?!? I've never heard it from Daley or ijit Blago. Their sole argument, if you can call it that, is that they consider NO distinctions between a legal semi auto rifle and a full auto "Assault Rifle" when making their case to ban so-called Assault Rifles.

That is whole problem. All the tripe they spew is as if a semi auto fired like a full auto ("spraying hundreds of bullets, blah, blah"), which we know is utter nonsense.

And their goal is to eventually ban ALL firearms - period. First will be the scary looking non "assault rifle", then cop killer bullets - which means any rifle over .22LR, then any semi-auto loading rifle, etc, etc, etc.

15 posted on 05/21/2006 8:42:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: umgud

much.


16 posted on 05/21/2006 8:43:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SmithL
A couple of factual errors definitely do not take away from the crux of his argument, which is well stated. Thanks for posting this! Mr. Bowers deserves our thanks.
17 posted on 05/21/2006 8:46:12 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: SmithL
The threat from automatic assault rifles is overrated. You need an army of soldiers to use them effectively. Having half a platoon lay down automatic covering field of fire while the other half advances to a more strategic vantage point is one purpose of automatic weapons. The problem is that you soon run out of ammunition by using automatic fire. The other purpose of automatic fire is to shoot in two or three round bursts to improve your chances of hitting a single target. The problem here is keeping control of your aim as the recoil is a problem.

A real machine gun is one that has a continuous belt with hundreds of rounds before needing to refeed. They are better mounted on some sort of vehicle as it takes a two or three man crew to lug one and its ammunition around. The automatic rifle holds about 20 to 30 rounds and needs frequent changes. A marksman shooting selectively one round at a time at a crowd would kill more than wildly shooting off a clip.

(Check out Sergent York)

18 posted on 05/21/2006 8:48:16 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: Condor51
That being said I don't know where this argument of conversions is coming from?!?

That's odd; the libs I know have been making that argument for years.
19 posted on 05/21/2006 8:48:18 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: SmithL

Funny how Journalists know so little of guns, yet write so much about them, as they do about military and war...


20 posted on 05/21/2006 8:50:45 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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