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To: ovrtaxt
The idea of this wall with these staggering costs is so stupid.....an unworkable bone thrown to the conservative base. And so many are falling for it.

There's no wall in the world that will contain clever people determined to get over, through or under it.

The reason walls erected by tyrants worked was because potential escapees were ruthlessly and summarily shot on sight, as in Berlin.

When the illegals get over, around or under the Great Wall of Bush, no one will be shot. Those who are caught will be given every courtesy, a shower and a cold cerveza. They'll be sent home where they'll stay till they try again in a different spot with a different strategy. The profits of a successful coyote will triple.

Leni

59 posted on 05/21/2006 5:42:11 AM PDT by MinuteGal (FReeps Ahoy 4 cruisers are on the way home! Check the cruise thread for great photos in a few days.)
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To: MinuteGal

These costs aren't anywhere near staggering. They are a miniscule fraction of the costs of health care and public education for illegals. I have posted numerous links which document the numbers.

And walls DO work. Sure, a few will get through, but San Diego won't have the daily track meet across the interstate like they do now.

There's no good economic reason to NOT build it.


62 posted on 05/21/2006 5:45:16 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: MinuteGal
There's no wall in the world that will contain clever people determined to get over, through or under it.

So the solution is to allow 160,000 people (120,000 of whom are sent back) a month to cross our southern border and not build physical barriers? Should we dismantle the ones we already have, including the 23 mile long fence south of San Diego?

The reason walls erected by tyrants worked was because potential escapees were ruthlessly and summarily shot on sight, as in Berlin.

Are you equating the construction of physical barriers on our southern border to keep people out to the Berlin Wall, which kept people in? If so, you are certifiable. I lived four years in Berlin (1983-87). West Berlin was an island surrounded by East Germany. Not only was there a wall surrounding West Berlin, but there were fences and walls separating East from West Germany.

If anything, using your analogy, Mexico is the corrupt tyranny with 40% of its people living below the poverty line who are trying to flee into the US, the equivalent of West Berlin. The problem is that we cannot absorb every Mexican that wants to enter the US and unlike the East Gewrmans who fled to West Germany, we don't share a common culture and language with the Mexicans.

What is your solution to stop the 500,000 to 850,000 illegal aliens who are coming into the US annually and now number anywhere from 11 to 20 million?

78 posted on 05/21/2006 6:12:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: MinuteGal
There's no wall in the world that will contain clever people determined to get over, through or under it.

Yep, its like locks on the backdoor for keeping out a theif.

80 posted on 05/21/2006 6:14:42 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: MinuteGal
There's no wall in the world that will contain clever people determined to get over, through or under it.

OK, so maybe a few dozen illegals outsmart the wall.

Experts estimate that 3-4 million illegals simply walk across our southern border each year.

EACH YEAR.

Considering that half of them will likely have children, that would be an increase of 100 MILLION poor, unskilled, border-line marxist leftists in the US by 2026.

If you think THAT is what America needs, I have several used cars I'd like you to buy...

101 posted on 05/21/2006 6:43:45 AM PDT by Edit35
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