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To: Peach
Hello? to you Peach.

Are you maintaining that President Bush's record in protecting our border and enforcing immigration laws is laudatory? Bush himself as much as admitted otherwise in his speech Monday in which he described in lamentable detail the chaos that exists on the border and in the interior.

Bush may have put some lipstick on the amnesty pig with a little border enforcement here and there. But the issue is that damn pig. Try to reassure us on Bush's amnesty intentions. Good luck.

31 posted on 05/20/2006 3:33:58 PM PDT by Plutarch (Trading amnesty for border security will yield neither an end to amnesties nor border security.)
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To: Plutarch

President Bush has spoken in favor of the bill authored by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisc.), known as the Border Protection, Antiterrorism and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005. Bush has already signed legislation appropriating more than $70 million to install new barriers and improve existing protective infrastructure along the border. This includes fencing as well as vehicle barriers and lighting to enhance border security.

http://www.colum.edu/students/reservoir/studentlife/february2006/week1/borderfence0206.htm


33 posted on 05/20/2006 3:35:45 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Plutarch

Amnesty? I think not.

Anyone who doesn't apply for an application by a certain date would be subject to deportation.

Fines will be paid by applicants.

Those who apply for an application can stay for 3 years and can renew for an additional 3 years at which point they have to return home and get in line with everyone else.

Employers of illegals have to certify they tried to find Americans to fill the jobs. Those employers have to pay minimum wage and all other labor standards. Fine to employers not complying would be increased and instead of just fines, which has been the standard for 30 years, employers would be charged with serious criminal penalties and subject to trial and jail.

Applicants will submit to a background check and criminals will not be permitted to stay.

Applicants must learn English.

The president has been tryin to get Congress to address this problem for over 2 years. If you're upset that no action has been taken, take it up with Congress.


36 posted on 05/20/2006 3:43:17 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Plutarch

It seems to me that those in favor "comprehensive immigration reform" when called to task simply ignore the call of your question:
`What about the intention and apparent desire of President Bush to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens?'

Their plan seems to be to simply change the date on the following: http://www.oig.lsc.gov/legis/irca86.htm
from `1986' to `2006'.
As a result this `can is kicked down the road' another twenty years.
Of course, in 2026 we could just again change the date `2006' in the above statute to `2026' when we have (was it 3 million in `86? and 12 million today?) using an exponential calculation: 48 million aliens "living in the shadows"--that is, when they aren't out demanding their rights while flying their flag, having read their history and recalling how well intimidation & threats worked in May of 2006.


40 posted on 05/20/2006 3:47:36 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Plutarch

One fact it is often the overlooked in the immigration debate is the fact that many of the illegals that come here have no interest in becoming American citizens. There always seems to be an assumption that anyone given the chance to become a citizen would. But it's just not true. For many the opportunity is to send money home, then return home someday with money.

It is particularly disheartening to see the effect of talk of amnesty has on legal immigrants. Many have told me that they spent over 10 years, legally obtaining citizenship. Now I looks to them, like the Senate and the president are making a mockery of their efforts.


42 posted on 05/20/2006 3:49:56 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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