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14 GOP INCUMBENTS DEFEATED IN PRIMARY
capoliticalnews.com (received via email) ^ | May 20, 2006 | Stephen Frank

Posted on 05/20/2006 1:16:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: supercat
I agree RINO's are a problem. I have no interest in kissing their butts.

But DIMRATS ARE A MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE

FAR WORSE TYRANNICAL, MARXIST, GLOBALIST PROBLEM.

That's just a fact.

AND, IT'S A FACT WE MUST NOT LOSE SIGHT OF.

We must truly NOT lose sight of that fact nor vote as though it were not true.

481 posted on 05/21/2006 1:32:40 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Jim Robinson

from the May 19, 2006 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0519/p09s02-cods.html

Bush may be losing his base
Conservatives are openly dissenting from policies of Republican leadership.

By Daniel Schorr

WASHINGTON - The term "base" is not in William Safire's political dictionary, but he tells me it will be included in the next edition. "Base" refers to that solid core of political supporters who will stick with you through electoral thick and thin as long as you are perceived as advancing their principles. Most often, the term is applied to religious conservatives.

Something seems to have gone off the rails between President Bush and his base, judging by a recent Gallup poll that shows his support among conservatives down from a long-standing 80 percent to a current 50 percent.

Religious conservatives have found the administration and Congress falling short on issues such as same-sex marriage, obscenity, and abortion. They have expressed disappointment that the president has not been more active in seeking a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

The issue of the week is immigration. In what he called a compromise proposal in his television speech on Monday night, the president sought to allay the criticism of conservatives by proposing to deploy 6,000 National Guard troops along the Mexican border.

There may be less there than meets the eye. The Guard troops will be mainly in support roles. The arrangement may not last more than a year. And the president, who also has a business base, felt compelled to propose a "guest-worker" (not amnesty, repeat, not amnesty) program.

At the same time, the administration was trying to shift attention to consensus Republican issues such as tax cuts and judicial nominations. But, the dissension within Republican ranks was evident. The $105 billion war-spending bill, passed by the Senate, was called "dead on arrival" by House speaker Dennis Hastert. When Senate majority leader Bill Frist called Gen. Michael Hayden the "ideal man" for CIA Director, Speaker Hastert announced his opposition to having a military man in the job.

Influential conservatives have begun speaking openly of their reservations about the Republican leadership. Dr. James Dobson, head of Focus on the Family, has said that he might turn critic of the administration unless it does more to deliver on conservative goals.

At this point, the thunder from the right may be in the nature of admonition. But I can recall a time when evangelicals shunned the ballot box. If that were to happen again, it would change the face of American politics.


482 posted on 05/21/2006 1:33:32 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Huck
When the only other choice is a Democrat? Absolutely. It's so simple I'm amazed you're struggling with it. There's an election with two libs on the ticket. In other words, you can either vote for a lib, or sit out. I'll vote for the GOP lib over the DEM lib and over sitting out. Why? Because having a GOP lib beat the DEM lib means we get more votes on committees than they do.

That is sooooooooooooo critically, vitally, crucially true. I also don't understand folks thinking AS THOUGH that were not true. Is it short-sightedness? Tunnel vision? Blind parochialism? As a psychologist, it puzzles me. As a sociologist, it puzzles me.

WORSE

IS

WORSE! GROUP!

and DIMRATS in control of either house or both houses of Congress would be greatly WORSE at a time when we CANNOT afford that.

483 posted on 05/21/2006 1:36:57 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: cripplecreek

They should always listen to their constituents, that is what a Republican form of government is all about.


484 posted on 05/21/2006 1:39:35 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: bjcintennessee
Maybe you can tell me why Hagel was never charged with a felony when, in 1999, he aided illegal aliens by forcing the INS to back off deportating hundreds in the meat-packing industry.

Because Hagel is "connected." All he had to do was harrumph about immigration laws being enforced selectively, and with the friends he has in high places, the roundups stopped and the deportations were dropped.

485 posted on 05/21/2006 1:39:49 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: OKIEDOC

I agree about the Amnesty issue.

Cutting off one's nose, hands and feet to spite one's face and trash one's options makes no sense, to me. No sense.

Some pie is still better than no pie. Control of most of the pie cutting is still better than being controlled wholesale by the Marxist, globalist DIMRAT overt traitors.

So, we know that RINO's are traitors, too. Not new information. We can still coerce them into voting in support of some conservative priorities SOME of the time. And we have committee chairs THOSE ARE VERY CRUCIAL FACTS AT THIS VERY CRUCIAL TIME.


486 posted on 05/21/2006 1:40:57 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Quix
I am old enough to remember the sell out by Republican Henry Bellmon of Oklahoma on the Panama Canal give away.

Bellmon had the deciding vote and went against the wishes of his constituents and , well drifted off into insignificance out in the Oklahoma Panhandle.

The voters still haven't forgotten the traitorous act of selling out that this moron did against his country.
487 posted on 05/21/2006 1:58:27 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Quix
But DIMRATS ARE A MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE

Explain why the following is not a good strategy for the Democrats, or what reason there is to believe that it is not their strategy:

  1. Run very hard to the left.
  2. Have the media portray some RINOs as electable moderates.
  3. Laugh when the RINOs implement policies to the left of anything the leftists would have been able to actually get away with themselves.
  4. The liberals win by having their policies implemented; the RINOs win by getting the spoils of political power.
Seems to me it's a good strategy, and it's working. The only way I can see to counter it is to make clear to the GOP that if it runs left it will lose power. If you have any other alternative I'd love to hear it.
488 posted on 05/21/2006 2:19:40 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: NormsRevenge; rattrap

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489 posted on 05/21/2006 4:31:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

What?
No BOHICA.
damn


490 posted on 05/21/2006 4:40:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: OKIEDOC

Yes, many RINO's will have to give an account of their choices, actions, words far more than they seem capable of imagining at present.

But then, that's probably true for most humans.


491 posted on 05/21/2006 5:06:51 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Huck
So you ARE voting for Snowe?

Let's put it this way, if Snowe were the only reason for me to go out to the polls and vote I would NOT be making the special trip. As I said, I will be voting for a republican to replace our democrat governor and congressman along with trying to replace dems with republicans in our local elections on that day. Unless another conservative republican runs I will be filling in the space next to Snowe's name and ONLY because I dont trust the government here. If there is a blank (no vote), they just may decide that was VOTER'S INTENT for the democrat running.

Republicans should keep that in mind that since the 2000 election fiasco, what used to be considered a NO VOTE or "Protest Vote" can be used as a vote for a dem with what they call "Voter's Intent".

492 posted on 05/21/2006 5:57:08 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: supercat
Explain why the following is not a good strategy for the Democrats, or what reason there is to believe that it is not their strategy:

1. Run very hard to the left.
2. Have the media portray some RINOs as electable moderates.
3. Laugh when the RINOs implement policies to the left of anything the leftists would have been able to actually get away with themselves.

The liberals win by having their policies implemented; the RINOs win by getting the spoils of political power.

Seems to me it's a good strategy, and it's working. The only way I can see to counter it is to make clear to the GOP that if it runs left it will lose power. If you have any other alternative I'd love to hear it.

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I have very little doubt that satan is busy about putting in place his world government for this era that The Bible has so much to say about. Certainly he must have a cluster of humans who are somewhat knowledgeable about it and at least extremely complicit in bringing it about--either consciously knowing they are working in cahoots with him or clueless to same--probably consciously knowing it. His character is written all over the actions of the DIMRAT and other Marxist/ socialist/ Machiavellian/ tyrannical globalists. Their goals are his goals pure and simple. I mean that literally. I do not care how many people scream tin foil. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to smell the whiff of sulpher around everything they do and push for.

Then there are layers of that power onion out from there.

The puppet masters are, to my mind, the first to say 3rd layer out from the dark lord himself.

Certainly the leading DIMRATS are exceedingly likely to be fairly high up in the power structure. Probably some RINO's are more or less on an equal power plain. Perhaps all of them.

All their strings are being jerked by demonic forces clever, slick, seductive, powerful in lies, whitewash, subtrefuge, power mongering, greed, control freak-ness, authoritarianism, tyranny, etc.

And they, in turn are great at jerking the public's strings in our Republic and around the globe. All the more so with those trained by our educational systems and media--complicit in such--toward selfishness, hedonism, rebellion and sucking up to the free-loading public trough.

I have assumed that at some level, there's a good-cop/bad-cop project underway by the puppet masters. And the DIMRATS and RINO's would be the most likely players in those roles.

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Our conservative forces WITH a number of RINO's are what practical, functional, governmental, human hope our beleagured Republic has left in this tumultuous time. In terms of the RINO's our conservative forces are simply not enough in number to carry the ball on their own. Nor are they likely to be very soon--if ever in our era--before Jesus returns, literally.

Certainly we should work to try and make our conservative forces the majority. Perhaps we could succeed for a given period of time. We should do our best.

But the fact is, we need RINO's to maintain control of committees, to get any conservative judges in place at all, to vote successfully for any conservative agendas at all. That's just the facts. They are not pleasant, ideal, desired but they are real facts.

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I'm convinced from a couple of different sources, AS WELL AS what I feel in my gut, that there is SOMETHING MORE DRAMATIC THAN ANYTHING IN THE LAST MANY HUNDRED YEARS coming in 2012 which has our government spooked OR which the puppet masters are planning and know will create unprecedented turmoil, even chaos around the globe.

No I don't believe this because of the Mayan calendar thing. I mostly believe it because of what I feel in my gut in checking it out with folks I think would know. The look in one of their eyes and the tone in their voice was exceedingly chilling--MORE CHILLING than I think I've felt in a long time.

But forget that. Just assume that the Jihadi forces and other Marxist, socialist, globalist forces are all building to a crescendo which will remake the world in their image as quickly as they can pull it off. And, they've ALREADY pulled it off say 85% or so. Certainly they've ALREADY achieved 85% or more of their goals that I read about on my univ library job in their organizational publications 1965-1969.

Assume that Shrillery is so eager to be at the top of the heap of NORTHAM that she can taste it with every demonic lick of her chops and flop of her buttocks. She'd love to be higher but probably recognizes her opportunities are limited, at best.

There are 30-40% of the electorate who support her fairly mindlessly. Another 15-25% are far too easily swayed her direction or AT LEAST in the direction of complicit RINO's.

That's a hard fact we have to fight against. We cannot erase it overnight short of a miracle from God. We have to work within that reality.

Complicit RINO's are dangerous, hazardous, traitorous, etc. No argument there. HOWEVER, we can do more with them and around them THAN WE COULD GOONS OF SHRILLERY MORE MINDLESSLY IN GOOSE STEP WITH HER AND HER DEMONIC FORCES PLOTTING THE DOWNFALL OF OUR BELOVED REPUBLIC and the world as we know it.

We just do NOT HAVE TIME--GIVEN CURRENT TREND LINES AND POLITICAL, SOCIAL FORCES--to wage the strategy you espouse--it would be suicidal. And the rate of destructiveness would be speeded up considerably.

There may not be a lot of options in terms of better strategy OTHER THAN INSURING THAT THE GOP maintains control of both houses and committees.

NO. It's not ideal. But it is real. And I simply cannot yet conceive of a better plan. Your plan is much worse.

Your plan plays into the globalist, Marxist, Machiavellian demonic forces MUCH, MUCH MORE.

Our land cannot afford that 'luxury' at present nor in the forseeable future.

493 posted on 05/21/2006 6:16:01 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: upchuck

Good bye fork tongue Lindsay Graham!

Yes yes yes...


494 posted on 05/21/2006 9:53:09 PM PDT by restornu ( Will I accept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name? D&C 132:9)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wonderful news! Hopefully it will continue. I hope everyone is volunteering to work on a campaign this year to get conservative Republicans elected to office!


495 posted on 05/22/2006 7:24:41 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: shield

bttt


496 posted on 05/22/2006 11:17:14 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Jim Robinson
But, Pennsylvania last Tuesday should have been the two by four to every GOP candidate and office holder in the nation.At least 14 incumbent GOP office holders, including the top two in the State Senate were defeated in a Republican primary, by Republicans.

With all due respect, Jim, the Pennsylvania results had nothing to do with national issues but was pure voter outrage over a sneaky and in fact unconstitutional pay raise for these very same legislatures pushed through with "bi-partisan" support in the middle of the night. The public outrage was strong enough that they eventually rescinded the raises but incumbents in both parties are facing voter rage because of it. Even the Democrat state house member from my heavily Democrat district who for 20 years now has usually won by 60-65% margins only won his Democrat primary by less than 200 votes.

Republicans and Democrats are equally pissed at the state House & Senate.

497 posted on 05/22/2006 11:45:48 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

I think the overall disatisfaction with how we are being represented definitely spills over onto the national level. The signal we sent was meant to be seen as far away as Washington.


498 posted on 05/22/2006 12:45:07 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Equal treatment for illegal aliens: the US should adopt Mexico's immigration policy!)
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To: Badray
Diamond is a definite NO for me. First off, I'm not a Libertarian, I'm more a fan of the Constitution party. I think he had his own agenda all along. His behavior when he left Clean Sweep was not exactly keeping the best interests of the cause or the supporters at heart. Then there's his choice of running mate. That guy is a multiple loser who even tried to switch and run as a Dem to get elected. He isn't very forthcoming on his campaign contributions, either. Why would an "incumbent-ouster" (who, BTW, is also a failed candidate) pick such an opportunist? Diamond knows he has zero chance of winning, yet he also must know that his presence on the ticket will water down the conservative vote and likely mean the WORST INCUMBENT of all will remain in power. I knew from the start the Reps would be the only ones with stones enough to toss their incumbents. I'm not so sure he's not a Dem tool.

As for Hagan, if his campaign page is any indication of the way he would govern, he's also out. If you can't bother with the basics of proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation, how are you going to see to the details of running a state government?

Swann will get my vote. I'd rather poke my eyes out with a sharp stick than do anything to facilitate Fast Eddie's reelection.

499 posted on 05/22/2006 1:01:57 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Equal treatment for illegal aliens: the US should adopt Mexico's immigration policy!)
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To: Quix
I read this today and it reminded me of your post. The topic was the DaVinci Code:

"I may not be a professor of “symbology,” but I have taught at Harvard and studied religious symbolism.  So I feel in a particularly strong position to reveal the entirely unsecret conspiracy against patriotism, tradition, and religion hiding in plain sight on our movie and television screens, in our universities, and on the pages of the mainstream press.  Conservatives have forgotten just how precarious our position is.  One cable news channel, talk radio, and the blogosphere do not an invincible army make.  It only seems that way because we also have nominal control of the reigns of power.  But lose our foothold in government, and conservatives are up a creek.  The other side controls the levers of cultural power in this country, and we are the enemy in their eyes (and on their screens).

Conservatives need to face the fact that our position in this culture is genuinely precarious.  If we lose our hold on power, we’ll scream bloody murder on our outlets at everything the other side does.  Yet those screams may only confirm our helplessness.  The deep cultural dimension of our political battles makes an ordinary transfer of political power far more consequential than it was in the days when America had a bipartisan foreign policy and a broad cultural consensus.  We can dream about forcing Republicans to the right and then riding back into power two years later, but one big loss could easily turn conservatives back into a marginal cultural force for some time.

Why have Democrats been so angry?  It’s because their taken-for-granted cultural superiority has been called into question by 9/11, the return of patriotism, a tough foreign policy, and the open defense of the sort of traditional values they thought were on the way out.  Republican victories have punctured the cultural left’s sense of the historical inevitability of their triumph, and that is at the root of their rage.  By controlling the political agenda, conservatives control the cultural agenda as well (or at least a large part of it).  But the truth is, other than the government, the left is still in control of our critical cultural institutions.  Should the left recapture the government as well, it may well succeed in pushing traditionalists aside in the culture at large." -Stanley Kurtz at The NRO Corner

500 posted on 05/23/2006 11:51:43 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Equal treatment for illegal aliens: the US should adopt Mexico's immigration policy!)
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