Which is utter nonsense. There are a hell of a lot more issues facing us than illegal immigration. And regarding Il.Im., without GOP control of the house or senate there wouldn't be any fence proposal approved. 370 or 700 miles obviously isn't enough, but it starts to close the gap and makes it easier to come back and argue for closer off the remaining gap.
A dem congress can filibuster judges until they retake the WH and then appoint USSC justices who will simply declare walls, enforcement, and scaling back of Il.Im. 'rights' to be unconstitutional.
To claim that the GOP is no different from the Dems is completely ridiculous, even when they do disappoint us.
Think about this statement for a moment. It's like saying "I have a lot more medical issues than just terminal cancer".
Illegal immigration is the terminal cancer that is destroying America from within. Now, the Republican controlled Senate are trying to pass a bill that will allow 100 million new immigrants into the U.S. over the next 20 years. They are saying to us: "OK, you're forcing us to act on illegal immigration, so we'll just let them all in another way".
Their may still be some differences between Republicans and Democrats, but every year I see those differences shrinking. We are losing our country to like-minded globalists and multi-culturalists from both sides of the political aisle. Maybe you're not old enough to remember what America once was, and therefore can't fully see what we are fast becoming.
The GOP is a very different than the Dims on one point - the Dims are not trying to insure their electoral defeat in 15 years due to a massive, Dim-inspired demographic shift. That is a purely Republican brand of idiocy. I honestly believe the Dim leadership just has to be laughing their a$$es off behind closed doors at the prospect of guaranteed, California-style control in the 2020 elections.
If you really think that fence is going to be built I've got some bridge stock I'd like to sell you.
"IN either case, his point was that the Republicans aren't doing anything for us, they're no better than the Rat party."
"Which is utter nonsense. There are a hell of a lot more issues facing us than illegal immigration."
Yes.
That statement is utter nonsense.
"And regarding Il.Im., without GOP control of the house or senate there wouldn't be any fence proposal approved. 370 or 700 miles obviously isn't enough, but it starts to close the gap and makes it easier to come back and argue for closer off the remaining gap..."
True, but it is NOT in law yet... and Bush very UNHELPFULLY has called for 'comprehensive' immigration reform...
which is NOT helfpul. The Senate bill is awful:
This legalization, aka amnesty-that-dare-not-admit-what-it-is, is bad public policy. It burdens taxpayers with billions in costs and liabilities; it is an insult to legal immigrants who have played by the rules; it will fail to stem illegal immigration flows but instead, like the failed 1986 amnesty, will make it worse. It is a surrender, not a solution.
Bad policy like that is never good politics, and the GOP RINO wing's pursuit of legalization/amnesty is also political suicide: It splits the GOP down the middle; it delivers a Democrat majority for the next generation made up of the 10 million illegal aliens, low-wage earning welfare and EITC eligible urban voters, that will be citizens in 10 years. Just as the 1986 amnesty made California a solid Democrat state in the mid 1990s, amnesty now means a Democrat majority in the country by 2016.
Anyone who stands up and says "it must include legalization/amnesty or nothing at all" is a real opponent of immigration law reform. We can only clean up this mess gradually, but NOT repeating the amnesty/legalization mistake is the first and most important rule to follow in whatever legislation we craft.
We got into this mess because of a failed amnesty in 1986 and 20 years of non-enforcement of immigration law. The only way out of this hole, in terms of both politics and policy, is a gradual, step-at-a-time approach to recover to a position of lawful immigration.
A TRUE compromise would NOT include amnesty/legalization at all, but would secure the border, get employment verification working 100%, and create enough legal avenues for employment-sponsored immigration so we can wean employers off illegal immigrant labor.
Let that be the 'compromise' from the House and Senate - leaving out the third rail of legalizing millions of illegal immigrants - and put it up for a vote in both houses. The only political victory for the GOP can be if we are united, and most conservative Republicans will never support a massive amnesty. Never. So drop it. Quit trying to 'compromise' around a Kennedy bill that gets a 'yes' vote from Schumer and "no" votes from 40 GOP Senators, and get serious about writing legislation that conservatives can rally around.
A dem congress can filibuster judges until they retake the WH and then appoint USSC justices who will simply declare walls, enforcement, and scaling back of Il.Im. 'rights' to be unconstitutional.
To claim that the GOP is no different from the Dems is completely ridiculous, even when they do disappoint us.
Bottom line: IF WE GET A MCCAIN-KENNEDY LIKE BILL ON IMMIGRATION (aka legalization/amnesty in it) DONT BE SURPRISED IF CONSERVATIVES STAY HOME IN NOVEMBER. IT WONT MATTER WHAT WE DO ANYWAY, WE WILL LOSE CONTROL OF THE COUTNRY SOONER OR LATER.
"To claim that the GOP is no different from the Dems is completely ridiculous, even when they do disappoint us."
Quite true.