George W. Bush on Immigration (A Man that Delivers on what he Says)

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[catholicfreeper]

Of course what the President said doesnt mean that they have to go home either.

[investigateworld]

Thanks.
One last question if I may.
What benefit is it to the Republican Party to allow 12 million new voters, the vast majority of whom will vote Democrat, onto the rolls?

[skeeter]

Of course what the President said doesnt mean that they have to go home either.

Then you'd agree he was being intentionally deceptive.

[catholicfreeper]

I will note one irony in all this debate that you are referencing. Leaving aside that Bush does not discuss in detail what Kerry means by amenesy(if you have been 5 years your'are in period). Noticed something. Kerry is actually a little tougher on the requirements. He is consistant that those people must have kids that are "American" Now if Kerry really meant that to be a die hard requirement well who knows. But Bush doesnt give that qualification

[savedbygrace]

What a silly argument. You're saying that if we voted for him even though he published his immigration policy in 2000 and again in 2004, that we have no standing or moral right to oppose him on this very position?

We have not elected an emperor, toby. If you prefer a form of government with such a ruler, there are a number of countries you would feel far more comfortable submitting yourself to. Not this one, though.

[deport]

interesting excerpts, quotes from the President.

[catholicfreeper]

wow ingnore that last quote I gave you that came from Kerry let me give the right one

[muawiyah]

The economy was doing quite well when there were but 265,000,000 people (1996). That's 35,000,000 fewer than today's 300,000,000.

If the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens were but gently returned to their OWN COUNTRIES, we wouldn't feel the difference.

[Regulator]

But I had no idea granting them amnesty would be the single most important issue for him outside the WOT and that he would pursue such a policy with such dogged determination and to the detriment of his entire party

Isn't it amazing?

Gosh, whatever happened to Abortion, too much spending, way too much taxation, way too much debt, the expansion of the government, creeping socialism, the end of affirmative action....the things people vote for Republicans on.

Nope. The most important thing is....something that is tearing the Republican party apart, and which could be simply solved by saying "well, that's the law" - and then enforcing it.

It really isn't any more complicated than that.

[jerry639]

When a large majority of U.S. of A. citizens are against citizenship for illegals the argument for citizenship is mute. It is about what the American citizens want. Not what President Bush, Senators Kennedy and McCain want.

[Lurker]

You are of course quite correct. That one really pisses me off. The other one that chaps my hide is that 'jobs Americans won't do' horsecrap.

There are no jobs Americans won't do for a decent wage. I asked someone on this thread to name me three of these mythical jobs we won't do and I still haven't heard back from him or her.

But it's kind of hard to demand a decent wage when there are 11 to 15 million illegal aliens depressing the wage market for lawful US workers. Not to mention the large number of felonious employers exploiting these people and stealing from the US Treasury by not paying into SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment Compensation Insurance pools, etc etc.

Oh well, we've got our work cut out for us now. It's time to make sure this horrible Senate bill dies in the conference committee and never again sees the light of day.

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[muawiyah]

Worst thing for "W" to do at this moment is to ignore my claim that there are "jobs Mexicans won't do", and mostly right there in Mexico.

He needs to worry about getting some Americans in there to set things straight.

I have a proposal for what my detractors ridicule as a "puppet buffer state" involving the Mexican states that border the US, but it's much more complex than that.

This is something the 82nd Airborne could do for us in just a few days time ~ long overdue in fact ~ Winfield Scott should not have withdrawn!

[William Terrell]

If a man promises Balkanization, destruction of the sovereignty of a discrete nation, expansion of welfare and entitlement programs, and does it, he in fact delivers on what he says.

Trouble is. . .

[catholicfreeper]

What happens when all the baby boomers die off. It seems the problem in the West including Mexico is birthrates in decline not population explosions

[Lurker]

**rueful chuckle**

Nailed it WT.

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[Plutarch]

I will note one irony in all this debate that you are referencing.

I note that you could find no evidence of Bush being A Man that Delivers on what he Says in the all-important 2004 Debate.

Thus Bush is proven to have mislead us, and the premise of your post is thereby false.

[Xenophon450]

"Our economy could not function without the immigrants"

I will assume by Immigrant they mean't ILLEGALS, I admire they're sidestepping...no not really. I suppose you forgot the day without an illegal. Yeah that day the day the stock market crashed and everyone had to pay 20 dollars for cabbage or a big mac...oh I forgot that never happened....

[Annie5622]

I'd give a dollar for everytime I read "lesser of two evils". Sad that some people can't tell the difference between evil and honarable. But, I guess it doesn't suit their agenda to point out the difference.

[skeeter]

Look how fast he folded on SSI reform, for cryin out loud.