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Bush's troubles -- not Iraq, Katrina, or illegal aliens, but fuzzy principles
Townhall.com ^ | 5/18/06 | Larry Elder

Posted on 05/18/2006 8:09:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

President George W. Bush's poll numbers -- even among Republicans who are hapy about tax cuts and the judicial appointments -- scream trouble. Trace the dismal numbers to three things -- the war in Iraq, spending, and Bush's perceived soft stance on illegal aliens.

Let's go over them.

As to the war in Iraq, the Bush administration argues that mainstream media ignores good news and focuses on the bad. General Barry McCaffrey, who worked as a division commander in the first Persian Gulf War before becoming President Clinton's drug czar, recently returned from Iraq. McCaffrey reported his findings in a memo to his West Point colleagues.

McCaffrey wrote, "The Iraqi army is real, growing, and willing to fight. They now have lead action of a huge and rapidly expanding area and population. The battalion level formations are in many cases excellent -- most are adequate … This is simply a brilliant success story. We need at least two to five more years of U.S. partnership and combat backup to get the Iraqi Army ready to stand on its own. The interpersonal relationships between Iraqi Army units and their U.S. trainers are very positive and genuine."

McCaffrey pointed out many problems, including: The Iraqi Army is "very badly equipped with only a few light vehicles, small arms, most with body armor and one or two uniforms." "… The corruption and lack of capability of the [Iraqi] ministries will require several years of patient coaching and officer education in values as well as the required competencies." "… The U.S. Inter-Agency Support for our strategy in Iraq is grossly inadequate." However, McCaffrey concluded, "There is no reason why the U.S. cannot achieve our objectives in Iraq. Our aim must be to create a viable federal state under the rule of law which does not: enslave its own people, threaten its neighbors, or produce weapons of mass destruction. "

A big reason that many turned sour on the war rests on the preposterous assumption that "Bush lied, people died." Remember the near unanimity with which experts believed that Saddam Hussein possessed stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he intended to pursue the development of a nuclear bomb. Even former President Bill Clinton, on "Larry King Live," four months after the coalition troops entered Iraq, said, "[I]t is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons. We might have destroyed them in '98. We tried to, but we sure as heck didn't know it because we never got to go back in there."

As to spending, Bush's critics properly point out that domestic spending increased at a rate faster than any President since Lyndon Baines Johnson. But didn't candidate Bush, in 2000, announce his goal for a prescription benefit bill for seniors? He called himself the "education President" and promised an even greater federal government role in education. Recall that Ronald Reagan, in 1980, promised to shut down the Department of Education. If Bush's critics called his desire to expand the government heresy, they nevertheless supported him -- twice.

Many of Bush's supporters sat in silence over, to name some, the Farm Bill, the Energy Bill, the Highway Bill, the use of tax dollars for faith-based initiatives, tariffs on steel, tariffs on lumber, No Child Left Behind, the expansion of the Clinton-era "volunteer" AmeriCorps program, the involvement of the federal government in the Terri Schiavo case, increases in the education programs, Title I and Head Start (despite real questions about their effectiveness), the use of federal dollars for embryonic stem-cell research, and others.

As to the issue of illegal aliens, many conservatives consider Bush a sellout and beholden to corporate interests. Here again, what did Bush supporters expect? Republicans wanted the then-governor of Texas to run for President. Why? Governor Bush unseated a popular incumbent governor with 10 percent and 24 percent of the black and Hispanic vote, respectively. Texans re-elected Bush in 1998, this time with 30 percent black and nearly 50 percent Hispanic support. Did Bush's supporters truly expect him to urge an "enforcement first" policy, without dealing with the status of the eleven-plus million illegal aliens here, or without a temporary guest worker program?

So, what does this all mean?

On the most important responsibility of any president -- national security -- Bush deserves tremendous credit for the War on Terror and the campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. After Sept. 11, Bush properly turned our response to terrorism from a law-enforcement matter to a military matter. We are at war.

But on domestic spending matters, Bush again shows that Republicans often talk the talk and fail to walk the walk. His father said, "Read my lips: no new taxes" -- and then raised them. Yet many Republicans, thirsting for victory, supported Bush-43's call for a prescription benefit bill for seniors -- the biggest expansion of Medicare since its inception in 1965.

Moral to the story: Sticking to your principles equals good policy and good politics.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; fuzzy; iraq; katrina; principles; term2; troubles
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1 posted on 05/18/2006 8:09:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The problem on the border is not an immigration problem. Rather it is a sovereignty problem and an immense financial burden for the USA. For the pubbies the problems that the border poses is their extinction as a ruling party. California won't be the last state that flips from being solidly republican to being solidly democratic.


2 posted on 05/18/2006 8:18:19 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: NormsRevenge
Bush's troubles -- fuzzy principles

You can use Nair, try waxing, or get alase treatments for that, these days.

3 posted on 05/18/2006 8:21:07 PM PDT by spall
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To: NormsRevenge
9-11 made the WOT choices of action black or white but took leadership to execute. The illegal immigration story is much more murky and we did not get there overnight, the choices not a clear cut & elegant solution.

We the American public, yet once again share part of the blame for being asleep at the wheel till a problem becomes a potential crisis.

I do not know if a fenced border is the answer, but I do know this amnesty thing is bad idea.

Wolf
4 posted on 05/18/2006 8:28:13 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bush properly turned our response to terrorism from a law-enforcement matter to a military matter.

This is by far the most significant change the President made and the one that has done the most to keep this country safe. The sad thing is, few people will even take the time to understand just how significant that change was.
5 posted on 05/18/2006 8:29:39 PM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Much of what Bush campained for was ignored because none of us wanted Gore or Kerry in the whitehouse. We simply were dreaming that we could fix the rest later. In fact that was the argument being used against those who questioned what he campained for. Now that gets thrown back against us in the form of "Well what did you expect". Simply Classic. I voted for Bush. I just wish that on ceartin issues the dream of changing his ideas had become a reality. Immigration is so huge, Spending is so huge, Being spyed on in the name of the war on terror when the borders are wide open is huge. Other than that I would be mostly happy with Bush.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 8:31:28 PM PDT by Revel
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To: P-40

We have terroism from within comming from out of the country, and an easy way for AQ terrorist to slip across our open boarders. Now we pay for it by being treated as criminals ourselves while illegals get the red carpet treatment. How can we feel good about that?


7 posted on 05/18/2006 8:35:16 PM PDT by Revel
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To: RunningWolf

I prefer a fenced, armed border to the criminal boarders we are entertaining at tax-payers expense. Citizenship is a privilege, not a right.


8 posted on 05/18/2006 8:36:30 PM PDT by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: Revel
How can we feel good about that?

It's still a few thousand times better than it was. At least we have a fighting chance at preventing another 9/11 now.
9 posted on 05/18/2006 8:39:51 PM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: sine_nomine
Citizenship is a privilege, not a right.

I agree 200% worth and I did not serve so all these illegals can get a piece of the pie while flying their Mexican flag in our face.

But I think once we get serious about sending the bad ones back the rest wont come, then a fence is not needed. Say 3 to 6 weeks in a prison camp to get a taste of what could lay ahead then send the bad ones back.

But it is till not an easy solution. I could not send away the Elian Gonzales of the world that truly risk their life to get here.

The citizens of America need to know they will not go unnoticed anymore for hiring illegals to do the upkeep on their investment properties and so on. This will stand irregardless of any prior patriotic contributions to the nation they might think that justifies such behavior.

Wolf
10 posted on 05/18/2006 8:49:39 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
9-11 made the WOT choices of action black or white but took leadership to execute. The illegal immigration story is much more murky and we did not get there overnight, the choices not a clear cut & elegant solution. We the American public, yet once again share part of the blame for being asleep at the wheel till a problem becomes a potential crisis. I do not know if a fenced border is the answer, but I do know this amnesty thing is bad idea.

I agree with much of what you said above - But the notion that GWB is offering "amnesty" is simply a false premise.

Unless we all get amnesty every time we go to court and pay a fine - If I get a ticket for jay-walking or disturbing the peace....I go to court pay a fine.....case closed. Did I recieve amnesty? (of course not).

GWB is not giving amnesty. That is what Ronald Reagan did. One minute 3 million were illegal the next minute they were legal with absolutely no requirements nor punishment.

GWB is not offering this in the least. There are background check requirements, there are assimilation requirements, there will be fines owed, etc, etc.

If you still don't like this type of plan. So be it. However, having to be intellectually dishonest and insist it is amnesty is BS. (unless we all get amnesty every time we go to court and simply pay a fine without doing jail time).

11 posted on 05/18/2006 8:57:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
However, having to be intellectually dishonest and insist it is amnesty is BS.

Because we are offering those that came here illegally the opportunity to stay here, it is amnesty. Plain and simple. All this talk about fines, and English requirements, and back taxes, and so forth is just talk. Like 1986, it will never be enforced. It is amnesty.
12 posted on 05/18/2006 9:02:29 PM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: NormsRevenge

OOOOOOOKK

Even if I accept the author's analysis on Bush,

There's no way in hell we should have expected all this BS when we voted in the Republican controlled Senate and House



13 posted on 05/18/2006 9:02:39 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ckilmer

How true that is. It is depressing here in California watching the State going from a Reagan State to a Boxer one.


14 posted on 05/18/2006 9:03:00 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: DevSix
Didn't GWB himself call it amnesty?

In my work I have rotating shifts and days off. I miss most tv and I have not have cable tv (by choice) for a few years.

I am not totally up to speed on the issue (as to what GWB is offering) because of that.

Wolf
15 posted on 05/18/2006 9:05:23 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: DevSix

Without enforcement it's amnesty.


16 posted on 05/18/2006 9:06:13 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: RunningWolf
Didn't GWB himself call it amnesty?

No. GWB has repeatedly say he is not for amnesty. Which is why his proposal is not amnesty whatsoever.

17 posted on 05/18/2006 9:07:57 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: axes_of_weezles
Without enforcement it's amnesty.

Huh? In GWB systematic comprehensive proposal there are dates given for voluntary compliance...after such a date none of these illegals will be eligible for even a path to citizenship. Deportation at that point is the only course of action for them.

Furthermore the terribly flawed temporary workers program that GWB is demanding be reformed will have enforcement from day one of someone applying. That happens before the fact of them entering this great nation.

Lastly to suggest unless GWB comes up with some magical way to assure 100% enforcement...you're going to consider amnesty.....Well then I guess we currently have amnesty for murder, drug pushers, etc, etc, etc.

18 posted on 05/18/2006 9:12:01 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: RunningWolf

He said he opposes "amnesty", but also said he supports a "guest/temporary" worker program and an increase in the number of "green cards" issued, both potentially leading to a path to citizenship. Many see those terms as a distinction without a difference.


19 posted on 05/18/2006 9:16:03 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: DevSix
"Unless we all get amnesty every time we go to court and pay a fine - If I get a ticket for jay-walking or disturbing the peace....I go to court pay a fine.....case closed. Did I recieve amnesty? (of course not). "

Your analogy is flawed.

The situation is more similar to being arrested for trespassing. You might only receive a fine from the judge but the first thing that will happen is YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE the property you trespassed on. If you don't, you will be arrested again and the judge will probably not be so lenient this time.

What the President is promoting is similar to being arrested for trespassing and the police saying that if you pay a fine you can stay on the property you trespassed on. This is amnesty pure and simple.

20 posted on 05/18/2006 9:18:36 PM PDT by Prokopton
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