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To: nkycincinnatikid
re :The Germans did indeed have huge losses fighting on two fronts during WWI, but they were so superior to the French and British and Russians that they were losing only about one soldier to two of the enemy. That is why they were actually winning the war and the USA had to intervene.

LOL way to rewrite History, America did not intervene, Japan attacked you and Germany declared war on you.

And if you are really interested in the merits of all the fighting men I recommend Max Hastings Armageddon.

There are conflicting reports but most agree about 3/4 of German losses were on the Eastern Front fighting the Soviets.

The Germans and Soviets when well led made better soldiers, coming from dictatorships where life was cheaper, they were able to withstand the horror and death of war. many also were brought up in martial environments the Hitler Youth and Kommosol both had a strong death and glory cult

On the Western side many had to overcome religious and western liberal upbringing before they could pull the trigger.

116 posted on 05/19/2006 2:39:47 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
Utter rot. Russians lost much more heavily than western allies did, and continued to do so even late in the war when they were winning. Man for man they fought considerably worse than US or UK. Germans fought better man for man, as they did in WW I as well; that reflected a strong officer corps and military profession, which the Nazis simply inherited and did much to wreck. On longer scales, the claim is directly falsified - tyrannies lose wars to republics much more often than the reverse.
118 posted on 05/19/2006 5:48:20 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: tonycavanagh

"The Germans and Soviets when well led made better soldiers, coming from dictatorships where life was cheaper, they were able to withstand the horror and death of war."

Germans yes, Soviets no. Clearly there were some elite Soviet units and many, many brave Soviet soldiers. But the sheer number of Soviet prisoners (several million) precludes any claim for their man-for-man superiority.

The Finns certainly weren't overly impressed with the Soviets during the 1940 Winter War. The Soviets started fighting better at places like Stalingrad once it finally dawned on them that they were in a war of extermination.


123 posted on 05/19/2006 6:09:48 AM PDT by Altair333 (Red Rover, Red Rover, Send Mexico Right Over)
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To: tonycavanagh; JasonC

Seppels question and my comment were reguarding WWI or the Great War as it was called at the time, in America we like to say, "Reading is Fundemental".


125 posted on 05/19/2006 6:14:19 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: tonycavanagh

"The Germans and Soviets when well led made better soldiers, coming from dictatorships where life was cheaper, they were able to withstand the horror and death of war."

Perhaps.
And for the same reason Russians and Germans were always inferior seamen and inferior airmen when compared to Western forces.


136 posted on 05/19/2006 8:25:27 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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