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To: TXnMA

Is there even the remotest chance thaat the JBTs are right on this one case?



In the absence of evidence that any of these "missing" guns ended up in criminal hands suggesting a pipeline or pattern, no.

Typos don't kill, and the ATF record for accurate record keeping is abysmal compared to those they regulate.


44 posted on 05/18/2006 9:02:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
You can see the "logic" behind this; if there are no FFL's, then nobody can legally buy a gun, and the RKBA is effectively finished. That's why even if the numbers look bad for Trader's, I have to question the motives. Imagine no FFL's - that's the dream of the Brady Boob and company, and maybe the anti's (and their allies in government) are behind the whole push to diminish the number of FFL's in the country. The Brady Boob is sadly mistaken however; I remember a quote from Aaron Zelman from JPFO: "When all guns are outlawed, you will be able to buy a machine gun on every corner in every major city for $200."
98 posted on 05/19/2006 11:52:20 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Beelzebubba
In the absence of evidence that any of these "missing" guns ended up in criminal hands suggesting a pipeline or pattern, no.

ATF claims that they have that info in this case.

When I was a cop, we knew certain shops were trafficking through straw buyers--through CIs and tracing serials on guns we recovered at crime scenes or confiscated during arrests. We notified the BATF. They investigated. They started bringing cases.

And then one of the gun shop owners would senda a check to his Congressman or Senator, and the BATF would tell us, "Sorry, we're going to have to drop the case--your guy has a good friend in DC."

Money talks and BS walks. I guess that's just the way of the world.

Wound up losing one of my two favorite lungs to a gun that had been bought through a straw buyer. (This one didn't even exist--the address on the 4473 was a vacant lot in an adjacent city. Besides, the name on the 4473 was "Heywood Jablowme." Kind of childish, actually.)

The guy who sold the lung-perforator to "Heywood Jablowme" of the vacant lot in La Mesa, CA made the mistake of stiffing a recreational pharmaceuticals wholesaler, and that was that. C'est la vie.

When you hear about how the BATFE always going after the marginal dealers--that's because they know the dealers aren't going to donate $4,000 to their Congresscritter and ask the Congresscritter to "fade the heat."

And, no, I am not an ATF fan. If the ATF were worth a damn, they'd go after the hard cases instead of backing off when a crooked legislator passes wind.

175 posted on 05/23/2006 4:31:17 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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